Battery matters

RFC 3676 will do.

No. I was using Thunderbird on XP for many years, and IIRC on 2K before that.

It's harder work when it's wrongly formatted. I may not bother in future.

No, it doesn't fulfil all the functions because it is not standards compliant.

You mean Windows Mail is WORSE? I use Thunderbird at home, and Outlook (not Express) at work, so I've never used it.

I went to Windows 7 for the Trim command on my SSD.

This time you haven't stuck your message into someone's signature block.

Count how many people have told you this evening that you are doing it wrong, and look at all the different platforms and clients they are running. Consider that we are all able to exchange messages with each other with none of these problems. Consider that one of them has even told you about a patch which removes some of the bugs in the program you are running. Then, if you wish, ignore us all. We'll probably all ignore you too.

Andy

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Andy Champ
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more years yes, but NiMH are lower capacity

NT

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meow2222

I don't except that OE is the de facto industry standard news reader. Yes it has that potential, because it's deployed in more machines than anything else, but being actively used to post to Usenet? I don't think so.

I just did a user-agent survey of the last 10 OPs posted to uk.legal arguably the least techy group I subscribe to (yes, I know)

1 Google Groups 1 MWM 1 Agent 2 Pan 5 Mozilla

No OE at all in my sample unless you count the Windows Mail. looks like TB is a contender for the most popular newsreader for posting.

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Graham.

Ah, ok. Thanks. Back to the drawing board.

Reply to
Davey

Kill the Linux infidels!

Reply to
Windmill

Unfortunately one has to deal with the world as it is, not how it ought to be, as I am often reminded, now you know how annoyed I feel.

Brian

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Brian Gaff

Just install Quotefix, it sorts out all the broken features of OE.

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Tim

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Tim+

No. If all is working as expected, then if you reply inline (i.e. typing your response in amongst quoted sections of the message you are replying to), those will remain exactly as you intended.

The news client should simply strip everything following the sig separator in the post you are replying to, so you don't end up quoting the OP's sig lines.

Hence if the original message was:

"words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words

sig sep sig line one sig line two sig line three"

You reply with quoting, and you should get:

" qt: words words words qt: words words words

your replay line 1

qt: words words words qt: words words words

your replay line 2

qt: words words words

your replay line 3 your replay line 4

sig sep your sig line 1 your sig line 2 etc"

(i.e. original sig has been erased and replaced with yours)

If however your client copies the message you are replying to without quoting it properly (i.e. just as a verbatim copy) and then you append words to the end of it (i.e. after the OP's sig), the next person to try to reply to your message using a standards compliant news client will find that your post gets trimmed off completely because your software made it look like it was just a part of a very long sig.

(Some clients go a bit further than this and also interpret the sig sep when reading messages, and render the sig so that it is in some way distinct from the body. In the case of Thunderbird it renders anything after the sig in a lighter grey so that it carries less visual "weight" than the main text).

Colours are just a feature of the way some clients display messages with quoting. For example, TB by default uses coloured side bars to indicate the different levels of nested quotes:

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OE quote fix will repair most of the quoting mess that OE gets itself into.

Reply to
John Rumm

I answered the Qs you should have been asking :-P

Reply to
whisky-dave

when fully charged. If yuo tried using teh same number of li-ion or MNhi you'd have 10V to start the starter motor rather than 12V.

Very common on boats to have a cutoff module that monitors the voltage and disconnects the battery reads 11.9V for over a minute....... to make sure you have enough volts to start the engine.

such as :

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Reply to
Rick Hughes

3 cell li-ion is about 12.6 on full charge and about 11 half discharged and 9-10 when flattish. Its a very usable replacement for 10 nickels or 6 lead acid cells.
Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

If you rarely use it, how do you know it's in good condition? My gues is that it is not, from my experience of cordless phones.

MBQ

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Man at B&Q

When we do use it, it runs for at least an hour with no indication of flagging, which is good enough for me.

Reply to
Davey

I didn't ask anything about car batteries.

Reply to
Davey

Having digested all the information below, these would be the next questions of interest: If I buy a new battery for my laptop, is this the best way of keeping it at maximum available power (or energy, whichever is appropriate)?

- Charge it up, then remove it and replace it with the old almost dead one, and switch the good one back into the laptop when needed?

- How often, or at what % of max. volts, would be the best time to recharge it? Or would it be best to run it to discharge at a set frequency, say once per month, and then recharge it, then remove and store it until the next time?

- Or some other regime?

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Davey

I was told they are best stored at something like 80% of charge. So that's what I do - the laptop doesn't seem to worry about working with no battery inserted. It also probably depends on the actual laptop - my Acer seemed to float charge the battery which it didn't like. Others may simply switch off the charge until needed again.

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Dave Plowman (News)

Yes, I have an ~18 month old Samsung laptop, which has always been plugged in, and it's battery is basically useless for more than about 15 minutes now. I tried recently to keep to a regimen of running it down maybe once per month, but I must admit I didn't do it regimentally. So I'm looking at buying a new battery, and I am happy to keep this old one in the laptop, to ride out power outages, etc, while doing the best to keep the new one at peak condition. I had a second-hand HP/Compaq, which did the same thing, even when I bought a replacement battery, it died within about a year while used plugged in.

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Davey

My only-slightly-younger Samsung purposely avoids charging until battery charge has dropped significantly, then charges it up. Seems fine though I do not actually need battery usage much of the time - so maybe capacity has dropped a bit?

Reply to
polygonum

Some Samsung notebooks have a BIOS setting which ensures that the battery only charges to something like 80%. This does seem to protect it against rapid degradation when constantly plugged into the mains.

John

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John Walliker

Mine, an RV511 might have done that if I had used the Samsung-Windows 7 it came loaded with, but I use Linux, which is not that specialised for any particular PC. I will boot back up into Win 7 sometime and see if I can find any reference to it. On the subject of buying a replacement battery, are there any known good or bad brands/sellers of replacement Li-Ion batteries for laptops? I am currently running mine without any battery, just to see if it does, so that's one test completed. Next test is to insert the battery while it's running.

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Davey

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