Amazon stealth deliveries

[Martin Bonner]

Yup.

Yehbut - Techno-Tat.com can now operate out of a shoebox for letters in a tobacconist's ... in down-town Shanghai.

[Peter Johnson]

Isn't 7dayshop now a marketplace? (Used to buy film from them when it was VAT free, delivered in £18 chunks.)

[Peter Johnson]

My guess is that bumped up the pecking order when a van loaded with paid-for despatch items is about to go out with spare space. Over the last month or so, incidentally, I've received Amazon items delivered by own-van, Royal Mail and a carrier (DPD I think). There must be a lot of clever stuff going on in their algorithms.

[Dave Liquorice]

Order was across "sold and fulfilled by amazon" and "sold and fullfied by market place seller". It's the market place seller that has marked their items as dispatched. Still nothing from amazon for their items.

[PeterC]

It's human rationality vs. computer logic - computer says FO!

[PeterC]

Seems to be - see Pamela's post - I'd forgotten about the multiple sources. 'spose it's the only way now that the VAT is now applied.

[Jonno]

Jethro_uk scribbled

Royal Mail are pricing themselves out of the parcel market. I was asked to post a 3kg parcel by 2nd class post yesterday. RM wanted £13.75. I can get a courier to do next day for around £7.

[James Green]

It would be worth suggesting it again, they are making massive changes to their system right now and it's vastly improved. Not only can you see only the operations that will ship to your location, you can see the shipping cost in the hit list and can even sort the results without having to specify the category now.

[RayL12]

Well, Since Oct 2015, I have completely turned around my view of 'fast delivery'. I ma now quite happy to wait the week that something might take to get to me.

Having been in construction since 78, either, building or hard landscaping, I was shocked to experience work inside distribution warehouses.

while being an all-round healthy form of work which, did me a whole lot of good, the pressure to maximise throughput was ugly. Personal targets (without reward) meant that avoiding some duties, in order to perform, meant chaos ensued.

In the last month I was on a system that isolated me from the people immediately around me. 8 hours of very little communication else you upset the 'voicette'. Controllers who did not mix and know what was going on -other than 3 good ones who actually worked to make things easier for the labour pool-.

The, very strict, 30 minute break was a sombre atmosphere. The crowd all being agency workers, bemoaned the competitive pressure that would come from the agency rep who would remind us of our target failures

Being told, after being in the building 30+ minutes and kitting up and then, reporting at he Control point near a qtr mile inside the store, that I will not be needed today.

Nah, I don't want to be responsible for putting the distributors of my community through that stress. I'll wait, and, if at all possible, I will make that known to the supplier.

I got too much to say about this subject, I will leave it there.

But, it is true that it is healthy work. It did me a lot of good walking 8 miles a day with a bit of lifting here and there. And, I want to get back into it. There are forward thinking agencies out there that do deploy the method of 'workforce first'. I'm gonna find one.

...Ray.

[michael adams]

The courier who may promise to do next day for around ?7 can only do so because they're simply agents who farm out the work to self employed drivers using their own cars and vans often as a second job. Many of whom won't be properly insured and are working for peanuts.

Which is why when the parcel goes missing more often than not each of the parties involved will all try and pass the buck and disclaim any responsibility

As to Amazon Logistics as I explained on here before they're not owned by Amazon but are self employed drivers or small outfits using their own vans which are painted with Amazon livery. If you still don't want to believe me then here's their recruitment ad

Does it cost anything to become a delivery provider for Amazon? No, but if you join the programme, you'll need to provide delivery vehicles, driver and safety training programmes, and insurance coverage. If you're a professional delivery business, it's likely that you already have everything you need

Delivery is a cut throat business. "City Link" - who used self employed drivers using their own vans - were Amazon's biggest "delivery partner"; before they went bust just before Chrismas

2104 owing tens of thousands to the drivers.

Amazon and Beezos didn't get where they are today by writing off capital by investing in a cut throat business like deliveries when there are plenty of mugs around all too happy to fight each other for that particular priviledge.

Although its obviously not in anyone's interests Amazons or their "partners" to shout it from the rooftops.

michael adams

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[michael adams]

No. They quote long delivery times so that when the item turns up early you'll get a nice surprise. Basically it "enhances the customer experience" without costing them any extra.

A secondary benefit is that it covers their arses in the event of something going wrong with the delivery. One instance might be where a customer has an ambiguous delivery address for instance.

michael adams

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[Dave Liquorice]

option

Even at £3 back per order that's 26 orders, I very much doubt I make

26 qualifying amazon orders per year.

Probably do order more than 26 items but like you a significant number are market place. TBH I'm Surprised they don't spot that and have a condition that disqualifies you from the discout.

Oh I've had an email from Amazon, one of their items has been dispatched, arrival Tuesday. Good grief, is it coming by carrier? ie some one is walking carrying it?

No tracking info (yet?) carrier is "DP", presumably DPD? If it is DPD I'd expect it on or before Friday.

Third item, also amazon, will be "dispatched soon".