that's why I'm far more interested in zigbee/zwave devices, where the intelligence is in a box that I own (the Hubitat) and would work without internet.
But zigbee seems to be moving from a non-TCP/IP network with a gateway, to a system where TCP/IP is in the thick of it
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Pamela
Alexa can schedule routines triggered by the time of sunrise or sunrise without a light sensor (which may not determine sunset correctly if the sky is cloudy). Use an Alexa Smart Plug or equivalent.
Menu > Routines > Create > When this happens > Schedule > Sunset
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Andy Burns
afaik, IFTTT charges device manufacturers, but now starting to charge device owners too
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Pamela
Yes, please but it's not widely accepted. I bought some Amazon smart plugs on promotion and they work well. At £25 full price 25 they aren't worth the benefit. Cheaper third party plugs need apps with rather "fragile" and sometimes unworkable web sites which I don't want to get sucked into.
Anyway, I don't much like the way Alexa hosts all those third party skills. I guess they want to encourage innovation but it can be a clumsy mess.
For eample, I end up with apps (unwittingly installed by voice command) for LBC Radio and also a skill for their owner's Global Player. Every time I ask for a background sound, like waterfalls, I end up with a new skill. I remove as many as I can.
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Pamela
Groan. I used an IFTTT routine to play BBC radio on Sonos with an Alexa command. It was never that great and now it's effectively in the bin. Oh well, good riddance.
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Harry Bloomfield, Esq.
I ordered 4x of them for <£24.
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Harry Bloomfield, Esq.
Radio Man formulated on Thursday :
Thanks, that makes it much more useful.
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The Natural Philosopher
TCP/IP works without the Internet.
TCP/IP works without the Internet.
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Harry Bloomfield, Esq.
Pamela explained on 17/09/2020 :
Thanks, thats what I was looking for :-)
I have that set up on a Smart Plug, to test it.
I see a need for more of these Smart Plugs.
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Andy Burns
But do you think Amazon, Apple, Google will be interested in non-internet connected IoT devices?
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Pamela
I hope they work as advertised. I would be interested to know how they perform.
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Harry Bloomfield, Esq.
Pamela has brought this to us :
Faultlessly so far. I put one in my metal roof + roller door garage, not really expecting it to be able to communicate, but it works fine.
They are rated 13/16amps, but I have only switched small loads with them so far.
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Pamela
Out of interest, are you using a third party app on your smartphone to link them to Alexa?
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Harry Bloomfield, Esq.
Pamela explained :
To be honest, I have thrashed around that much trying to get it working, I don't know if I am or am not using a third party app.
I may have the Smart Life skill installed, I definitely have the Smart Life app, but it seems I don't really need the latter - because Alexa does all it does and more.
I thinking to order more of these Smart Plugs, as I am finding them very useful.
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Pamela wrote on 17/09/2020 :
The four plugs are identicle to these, but lack the Teckin name on them. The MAC traces to Beijing Winner Microelectronics Co.,Ltd.
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The Tuya-based gear is supported by third party firmware:
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Teckin plugs are among them:
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Tasmota runs a webserver locally on the device, and can be set up to speak MQTT to a local command/control server (I use Home Assistant)
I'm not letting the Smart Life app near my phone, so I reflashed the plugs straight out of the box (Maxcio W-UK007S in my case, but the innards are roughly the same).
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