I suggest you read the diy forums on there. A lot of the answers tend
towards the hostile when people start treading on "professional" installers
Go and ask where you can download an install manual for your alarm :)
"Steve" wrote in message
Well that would provoke any alarm installer ie its fruitless asking that Q
because if devious tw*ts could get their hands manuals they would have a
ps you do get the odd plonker asking where to obtain a manual. ;-)
Why? The security of an alarm system shouldn't rely one someone not
having the installation manual. After all, alarm installers have the
manuals, and they can't all be as honest as a Scandinavian summer day is
Not the bell box, the main unit, which is why leaving it in plain view is
never a good idea.
I'm familiar with quite a few robberies of commercial and domestic units,
and I think the clever robber defeating the security is a Holywood myth.
An alarm is just a deterrent, every robbery I've seen has either been
opportunistic, inside job, or just plain brutal. Alarms helped in none of
So answer the question, if you can. Why is someone doing DIY & asking
for a manual a plonker?
At least my brains aren't in my arseole.
Exactly. My view of the purpose of a domestic alarm is damage limitation and
peace of mind. If there is someone in, it alerts us to anyone messing about.
If we're out, the noise will hopefully cause them to grab the low-hanging
fruit (replicable items) and bugger off before causing too much grief or
digging out the better secured valuables.
So the inbred guild of alarm installers can maintain a veil of secrecy over
the General Public that allows them to charge exorbitant prices. Real
example of what happened to a friends parents: 5000 to install a domestic
panel, bell box and two PIRs. Plus 300/year maintenance. Then claim it
would cost 500 to replace the battery (17 from B&Q, but without the secret
spell book not something you can DIY). I replaced the panel for less that
50 quid with one that could be maintained, and pointed out the couple of
quid a year they saved on the insurance by having an "approved" alarm wasn't
worth the 300 quid they were paying for the "approval".
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I'm surrounded by pro installed alarms. As probably are most. Many of
which go off for no reason. Or at least not set off by an intruder. My DIY
installed one has never given a false alarm. And when you look at the way
many 'pro' istallations are thrown into place with cables running under
carpets etc it's no surprise they give trouble. Like everything electrical
to do a neat and efficient installation is 99% building work rather than
specific knowledge of those systems. And why pay technician's rates for
skills you can probably better?
I picked a parcel up from a depot the other day and the notice on the wall
by the main door said something like "an internal security sounder operates
that may cause an intruder to lose control of their bowels".
Personally I would fit a Master Blaster.
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The fat bloke from Mad Max or the sounder :-?
I think motor driven sounders with visible vanes are a bit susceptible
to the lolly stick attack and a bit expensive, I prefer well made moving
coil sounders internally with Elmdene ones from CPC being my current
favourite (very dinky, cost effective & painfully loud).
Having missed the start of this thread I can see many points of view but
this may help the original poster.
All the alarm manufacturers I am aware of have a web site where instruction
manuals are readily available for download.(just google the make
If however you want an engineers programming manual they want you to
register with them or be an accredited installer.
Their excuse (if that's the right word) is that a non qualified engineer may
damage the equipment or themselves by being inexperienced in the panels
(IMO whilst having some validation is really a way of saying buy our stuff
and we will let you have the instructions)
On a lighter note there are at least 3 sites on the web that have the most
common alarm systems manuals available for free download.