Not sure what you're looking for here Dave. PPF (price per fixture) is only an average on the entire job. What specifically are you wanting and maybe we can help.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you were in my area, I would tell you that average PPF is approx. $435-$450 per fixture. A simple trac home with 2-bathrooms could be figured like this:
bathroom #1 Bathtub, Toilet, Lavatory (3 fixtures) bathroom #2 Bathtub, Toilet, Lavatory (3 fixtures) Kitchen Sink (1 fixture) Washer Box (1 fixture) Water Heater (1 fixture) Connection to city service (sewer/water) (1 fixture)
total fixtures = 10 x $450/fixture = $4500
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Figure in approx. 1-1/2 days per bath. So a 2-bath house should take you about 3 days to finish the rough.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- But you REALLY need to figure out where these numbers are coming from. I would never bid strictly per fixture. Per-fixture pricing is ONLY an average of prices in my area. And frankly, $450/fixture is pretty weak. Other areas are getting $600+ per fixture. So make sure you bid appropriately. And make sure you know what those numbers mean. You can't treat a jetted tub as ONE fixture because the damn tub alone will cost you over $1000 with the valves. So don't f*ck yourself by throwing out a per-fixture price. KNOW where those numbers are coming from.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just like on your water heater you can't really bid it as ONE fixture because there are lots of factors that affect the price of a water heater. Is it in an attic? Do you have to install the flue pipe and combustion and ventilation air? Are you running the gas line? Will you be installing a pan and drain line for the pan? Do you have to wrap the water pipe with insulation? Do you have to wrap the expansion tank in your area?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On your sewer line...are you going to run your sewer line 50-feet or are you going to run the thing 150-feet? makes a big difference in the cost. Are you sub-contracting your excavations or is the contractor opening/backfilling your trench? Do you have to use service weight cast iron at the street connection or can you use PVC fittings? Are you digging through dirt or solid rock? do you have enough grade or will you be installing a pump?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- All sorts of things to consider when bidding a job. I personally have
5-pages of "terms and conditions" that I have built over the years. They include all the little things that over the years have cost me or other friends in the trade money because they were not addressed in the original contract.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I found that it helps to break the house into sections. Assuming a house with a crawl, I break the house into floor level, crawl area, and attic areas. When I look at a job, I know immediately the I have certain fixed costs on all of my fixtures "at floor level". For instance, every tub will require a tub waste, a valve, and other odds and ends to finish my rough (at floor level). Since all my floor-level costs are the same, all I have to do is figure out what my crawl costs (for building drainage system and water supply) and my attic costs (for venting) and my sewer/water service costs + backhoe costs are going to be. I keep these costs in my computer and I build averages based on previous jobs. So I have an "average cost" for a tub and for a toilet and a lavatory and etc. Since I know what my costs are going to be,the only real question is "how long is this shit gonna take". Again, I figure in 1-1/2 days per bathroom. So a 2-bath house will take me 3-days on the rough. 1-day on the sewer/water. 1-day for my final. So I'm looking at a total of 5-days + materials costs. What is your time worth? If you're used to getting paid $100+ per hour on repair work, you're in for a big disappointment. New construction ESPECIALLY trac housing doesn't pay anywhere near that well.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't know if this is what you were looking for because you were never real specific on what you were looking for. Let us know and maybe we can offer a little more