so i was looking at my pics from the WOC and began to wonder. it's not unreasonable to expect that all the vandas on the front side of fuchs' display came from RF; but what about all those white phals on the back?
do exhibitors have to use all their own plants? can they buy plants from other folks? after all, if everything you want to use in a display isn't in bloom in your own GH at the time you want to use it, do you change your design to reflect what you have, or do you go to a mail order house or someplace else to get what you want? does this affect judging at all?
just curious, as i know nothing about all this....
I don't know how they handled those huge displays, but I suspect that Kathy is right. I *can* tell you the protocol for normal displays in shows around here. I stress the *around here* part of that, because I find that locales differ.
If we as a society install a display, whether a 6 foot table top or a 100 sf floor model, we use our own plants. Ditto a card table size, which would be done by one or two people. If additional plants are needed, people have been known to purchase them, but it's bad form to register a plant like that for ribbon judging. The rule of thumb (and it's only that) is that a plant should have been in the possession of the exhibitor for about six months before being offered for judging.
Having said that, do some folks circumvent those rules? You betchum, Red Ryder. And we've had discussions in this group about just this kind of thing. After all, a ribbon is given for flower quality, as is an AM or an HCC, so it's going to the plant, not the grower. A CCM, on the other hand, is for exceptional culture, so is a reward to the grower. So one could argue that no matter how long you've owned the plant, it should be eligible for ribbons. But then, if it's been registered, how do the judges know it hasn't been owned for six months? They can't know that.
Let's make sure we are comparing apples to apples and oranges to oranges. I'm not sure the usual club rules apply here. Who is a member of the WOC? Its not a club, per se.
In a club's show the plants in a display should be owned by the exhibitor, the 6 month rule applies if its written into the show schedule (which most of the time it is).
Don't quote me, but I think there are different judging rules/regs for a WOC. I noticed everyone commented on the number of 'trophies' the K-S display and RF Orchids display got... not 'AOS awards', 'AOS Show trophies' or 'Gold Certificates' etc. I could be wrong, and frequently am. We'd have to ask someone who judged the show.
The 6 month rule only applies - on the AOS national level - to cultural awards (CCM, CCE). People frequently buy the plant and display it for quality awards (HCC, AM, FCC). The cultural awards go to the grower for exemplary ability to grow. The quality award goes to the plant for looking good or being an improvement.
Agree. That's why I limited my remarks to society events. I don't look at the WOC as a society. There was no AOS judging, but that's a remark for others who may not have known that. I know you do.
Around here, it's frowned on to take a newly acquired plant for flower quality judging, but there would be no way to enforce such a rule. And it may be a local society thing, rather than AOS.
hmm...... i also wonder what this type of thing does for sales for the commercial folks; i wonder if ppl will go into K-S looking for phrags now, or to RF looking for phals?
that said, i was surprised there weren't more ppl at RF on sunday when i went; i would have expected a big blob of WOC folks to have made the redlands trail pilgrimage...but then, it was raining, so maybe they were out there on saturday.
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