Zoning Changes in California

[Dean Hoffman]

Cindy grew up in the day when women had hourglass figures. Young women in Nebraska are more football shaped now.

[Tekkie©]

On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 14:29:28 -0400, micky posted for all of us to digest...

Just as Dem govs have done i.e. NY, CA, MI, PA

[Tekkie©]

On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 15:02:32 -0400, [e-mail] posted for all of us to digest...

I used on of them. I hated it too. String trimmers were not invented but shears were. Also hedge trimmers-Tekkie powered.

[Ralph Mowery]

Younger people want more than they can afford. They want starting out what it took most of their parents years to get. If they can charge something and streach the payments out for many years they will. The do not care it costs them about twice as much in the long run.I bet many of them do not have any savings in a 401k or IRA. Where I worked only about 45% were in the 401k where the company matched up to

5 % of what you put in.

[Scott Lurndal]

Frank is an idiot. State-wide "population density" is a completely irrelevent when the large metropolitan areas where people _actually live_ are geographically constrained by 3000 to 10,000 foot mountain ranges and have significantly higher population densities than the state-wide average in a state where a large percentage of area is uninhabitable.

But facts have never bothered Franks' blathering.

[Scott Lurndal]

[e-mail] writes more nonsense:

And what "road" is that? No single road connects the two cities; you have to cross the mountains along Lake Isabella on CA178 from US395 to get to Bakersfield or cut through Yosmite on CA120 (which is a beautiful drive) and go down 99.

And it (US395) is _NOTHING_ like Nebraska. Mountains on both sides and desert in the middle (death valley is _nothing_ like Nebraska).

[invalid unparseable]

Been a long time since I've been there but that is the California I remember. Like I wrote, one size does not fit all.

[gfretwell]

The only time we see houses packed in like that are in Gated communities and those houses are more like $600k-$1M. The county demands a 66 foot right of way to build a road they will maintain so builders choose the HOA model with private roads. It is so common, people think there is a law demanding an HOA. It is really only about how much land the developer is willing to give up for a road and the standards they build the road to. Most developers just lay down a few inches of asphalt on the existing dirt and walk away with their money. Ten years later when the road is crumbling, it is the HOA's problem.

[gfretwell]

Not all young people. My niece lives on 32 acres of waterfront with horses and a marina. She won't go to DC, 50 miles away for much of anything. Her kids and grand kids all live there too.

[gfretwell]

I used that one to mow the grass next to the pool, just because it didn't fling grass everywhere. I have Zoysia in there now and that mower won't touch it, too dense. Fortunately it doesn't need a lot of mowing.

[Ed Pawlowski]

As you get older, that is a nice feature. I have 5992 sq. ft and adequate for my needs, down from a 1/3 acres in the last house.

[gfretwell]

395 and I was referring to the population density not the environment. Try to keep up with the conversation. The point was the population density in the east is nothing like it is along the coast and I did refer to mountains and desert. When we went the other way from Sequoia NP to Mammoth we did go through Yosemite and over Tioga pass but if you need to get somewhere fast, that is not the way I would go. The trip back down south from <racial slur deleted> Valley was not planned. It just popped up. We were supposed to fly out of Reno. We ended up flying out of LAX after an unplanned meeting with an old friend in LaJolla.

[rbowman]

Idaho Spud Butts moving east? I saw 'Elephant Walk' when I was a kid and rewatched it a couple of years ago. As a kid I was focused on the elephants and missed the sexual tension. Older, and not any wiser, I focused on Elizabeth Taylor while wondering how she managed to look like that.

[rbowman]

We had one but I seldom used it. I have memories of tearing across the yard, hitting a twig fallen off the elm, and trying to drive the handle through my spine.

We did have a Firestone self-propelled reel mower that was the last word in '50s lawn mowing.

[rbowman]

I got curious one day and hung my GPS off my belt. According to it I pushed the mower 1.25 miles.

[Marilyn Manson]

Stereotype much?

My "young person" son recently bought a house with 2 acres of lawn.

My even younger daughter bought close to an acre. Had never mowed a lawn until this summer or used a snow blower before last winter. Enjoys every minute of it.

[invalid unparseable]

I was many years ago, before gps, that I was driving from Yosemite to Tahoe intending to go through Yosemite but Donner pass was snowed in and we had to head west to the interstate. Guy at the motel desk said take first right and then left at the stop sign. It was over 25 miles to the stop sign and practically nobody along the route.

[angelica...]

No, a little electric mower.

I can't argue with that now, but as a teenager I always had things I'd rather be doing. Watching Star Trek reruns, for example.

Then again, I don't get much enjoyment out of mowing the lawn nowadays, except that it's a good, solid 90 minutes or so of uninterrupted time with my thoughts.

Cindy Hamilton

[angelica...]

The plural of anecdote is not data.

Availability of large lots or acreage appeals to less than 25% of buyers of any age.

Convenient to job is important to about 2/3 of people between ages 22 and 40. It seems to be the most important factor by a long shot.

Cindy Hamilton

[gfretwell]

Donner Pass is the long way around. We went through Fresno and over Tioga pass that drops you on the road south of Tahoe. We were going to Mammoth tho. Then we went up to Tahoe and Squaw valley.