Recent tree problems resulted in a mashed gutter, and I'm wondering
exactly what they're supposed to be for anyhow. All the ones I can see
in the neighborhood have a downspout angling *in* from the roofline,
and then pointing *out* at the bottom, but still allowing water to
exit closer to the foundation than dripping off the roof would, even
with a basic little concrete 'shoe.' If there're no problems with
water in basement/crawlspace, what's the purpose of guttering? Other
than collecting leaves.
firstname.lastname@example.org (mark Ransley) wrote in message
I forget the name of it, but they make a roof product that disperses
the water that runs down the roof into more of a spray so gutters are
not supposed to be needed. If you have sufficient overhang, slope and
drainage, there are conditions where not having a gutter is better.
Most homes don't meet these conditions.
On 23 Nov 2003 09:09:40 -0800, email@example.com (MaxAluminum)
The whole problem is that houses are not built right. Houses should
never be build over 5 feet wide. If you build your home 5 feet wide,
and 200 feet long, you'd still have a 1000 sq. ft. home, equivalant to
a 25 x 40 foot home. The difference is that rain water on the roof
would be dissipated much better, because it would be spread over a
much larger area. If you want a 2500 sq. ft. home, just build it
longer, which in this case would be 500 feet long X 5 feet wide.
We need to reconsider the way we build our homes to eliminate those
leaf catching gutters.
How do you know you won't have water problems without your gutters? I would
think that you would over time. As a member of the gutter conspiracy, I am
sworn to secrecy, but our standard response that they indoctrinate us to say
is that directing water away from the house is the primary reason.
Protecting your shrubs, lawn, patio, etc from cascading water is another.
They are supposed to carry water away from the foundation. This
reduces foundation problems, mud splashing against the house, and
discourages insects. I have seen gravel pits around the perimeters of
homes instead of gutters. In drier climates, gutters are not needed.
i have gutter on my home.. but i built a garage/shed/workshop in the
back yard to the same height of the house and it does not have gutters
on it and there is an indentation in the ground all around the building:
its the water coming off at full speed in that area when it rains.. if
you have no gutters you will soon have this on your property...... and i
remember reading in some code books that gutters were required on some
buildings.. dont know if it applies to all buildings or not, but it
could just be the larger office buildings.. in town in the old area
where gutters are missing or defective the water comes down like it was
coming out of a fire hose... dont want to be under it when the water is
The water needs to come off the roof in a fashion
that it doesn't affect the wall or neighbor's wall, the
foundation or neighbor's foundation. The house should have
positive slope away from the building, and often gutters are a
liability to the structure. After all, two leaves in the wrong
direction can block a downspout, and then the water gets
trapped in the gutter, to spill over where it's not supposed to, or
perhaps breed mosquitoes.
I think it was Ben Franklin who had some choice words aboout
gutters. If you have good drainage, the eve overhang is
sufficient, and if you don't mind what the flow off does on
ground, then gutters are pretty much a waste of time. In
many cases, gutters are as useless as the fake shutters
people use to decorate their houses. In other cases, they
are absolutely essential.
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:37:35 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
Ahh. The answer I was looking for. As I thought I explained enough to
forestall rude answers, I didn't/don't see how channeling water flow
somewhat closer to the foundation than the roof overhang was
particularly beneficial. One post *did* mention a dripline digging a
mini-trench, but as my close-to-eave plantings are large plants/shrubs
which break up the flow about 4' above the soil, this doesn't seem to
be a problem.
I also have fake shutters. *Everyone* here has fake shutters. I've
often wondered about that, too. Seems as if real, sturdy, closable
shutters would be quite popular in a hurricane-prone area. But no.
So I conclude that, for the most part, both guttering and shutters are
to houses what the tie is to a busines suit. Required for
respectability, but often of little practical use.
That's pretty much it.
It keeps the drips off your head. Some roofs have a diverter on the roof to
keep it away from the door so you don't get dripped on while fumbling with
your keys. Another reason is to keep from getting a trench caused by
erosion around the perimeter in line with the roof edge.
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