I'm trying to figure out the best path, other than drilling and the
time consuming process of fishing/drilling through floors, to get a RG6
cable and Cat5e cable from my attic to my basement.
I have heard that you can run plenium Cat5 down environmental vents
without any issues. The sewer vent runs from the attic to the basement
and is the only direct path I can see. The pipe is 2" and is used for
my sump pump in the basement. I was going to cut the pipe and use a 45
degree capped splitter for the wires in the basement to avoid drilling
ugly holes directly in the pipe.
Is this NOT a good idea? Any restrictions on if I can do this with RG6
I'm in Georgia, if that helps any in regards to code.
One thing to try first, (I can't answer your question directly as I don't
know) -- Some of my plumbing pipes have enough room around them to trop a
line down the outside of them, between the pipe and the floors they
penetrate. We used a chain tied to the end of fishin line as a weight to
drop straight down through the holes. It took a few shots, but we got it.
if you have a pipe in straight line from bottom to top of the building,then
you don't have to drill anything...
your pipe is round,and much of the time the guys make a square hole to let
pass from floor to floor,with a bit of patient and a good fish (1/4 inch)
you can pass from top to bottom then pull the wire up,wait till its a bit
less hot in the attic to try it..
DONT run any cables inside sewer lines, the wiring entry exit spots can
leak and explosive gasses get in your home. from say a natural gas leak
on the street or if a idiot dumps gasoline down a sewer.........
run wires along side sewer or other lines, in a closet, behind kitchen
cabinets, up a fake downspout outside home, had a friend who ran
conduit right along a downspout, it was invisible.
If a 1/4" hole filled with wire and silicone in a vent pipe is going to
allow explosive gasses into your home or gasoline fumes from the guy down
the block who is always putting a gallon or two of gas down his sewer...the
problem won't be at the little hole.
Now if you are always worried about the natural gas leak on the street
causing gas to go in the roof vent, down into the house and into the little
hole filled with silicone.... I would never open my windows... LOL
People go to lots of work to avoid doing it right and can cause
troubles at home resale time
Do it right do it once then sit back and relax!
Sewer gas accidently entering your home can lead to all sorts of
troubles including illness and hazardous gasses that can cause
those pesky rules were largely written after bad problems occured
Tony, you said the vent is used for your sump pump. Are you certain that's
its only use? Here in Colorado sump pumps are required to discharge to
daylight and may not be connected to the sewer. Is yours connected to the
sewer, or does it discharge to daylight?
On 13 Sep 2006 12:57:28 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Wireless hardware is more complex, and so less reliable. It is harder
to set up computers and other devices. Range is limited (and reception
can be intermittent and subject to interference), but still is likely
to provide physical access when it's not wanted (security
vulnerabilities) so requires directional setup (WPA and such), which
increases setup time and decreases available bandwidth.
Just piggybacking on the last posted message:
The OP hasn't responded to any of these messages, so he apparently
My suggestion for anyone who does care, is that vinyl siding is a great
conduit for cable of any kind. I have run cat5 through vinyl siding.
Just drill two holes in the sheetrock and sheathing, one at the source
of the cable and the other at the destination, run the cable under the
siding after unzipping the siding panel, down or up at the corner
channels if necessary, and into the destination room. Use boxes with
connectors for the source and destination holes for a neater connection.
What does code say about this? You're talking about running wires
essentially externally. That and I'd worry about the long term issues with
something else going through the siding at a later date. Why introduce a
headache for the next homeowner when they discover someone put wires
improperly underneath the siding? That and fire code issues with the jacket
material catching fire and acting as a fuse taking the fire to other areas
it might not otherwise.
No, don't half-ass it with something like this. It's your HOME, the largest
investment you're likely to make in your life. Don't short-change it by
doing something like this.
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 08:05:58 -0400, "Bill Kearney"
You're allowed to run coax and cat-5 right up the side of the
house OUTSIDE the siding if you want to, it's just ugly as hell.
The only thing I'd add is, seal the penetrations with
caulk or foam to limit wind and insect penetration.
While I agree with Mr. Kearney that it's better to "do it right" in the
first place, I seriously doubt a length of wire would pose any more
hazard in a fire if it was located on the outside of the siding or
underneath it. I've never heard of a cable acting as a "fuse". There
are far more combustible materials used in home construction and I doubt
the "fuse factor" would be pose any real issue. I mean, by the time it
gets hot enough to ignite FT-4 or FT-6 rated jacket, the vinyl siding
would be ablaze as well.
Suit yourself, quite possibly 'law-suit'.
Code exists for a reason. It's all a bunch of little stuff, but much like
the death of a thousand pinpricks, it's the little stuff that adds up. Just
because your one wire isn't a problem doesn't mean it won't become part of a
larger problem later. I've seen and heard tell of all sorts of wiring
stupidities, some DIY, a fair bit by "professionals". I'd rather avoid
doing something lazy on the premise it "might not" be a real problem.
Really, your home is probably the most expensive investment you'll ever make
in your life, why screw around with it? Why put your life and your money at
risk? Just to be cheap/lazy? Honestly, it makes no rational sense.
But hey, feel free, someone's gotta keep the firemen, lawyers and morgue
OK. Glad you got that off you chest. I still have serious doubts that
a "hunk" of wire could become a fuse though.
Now before you go off on another "tangent", I too, have seen the
"results" of DIY "inspiration" when it comes to running wire. If you
honestly don't know what you're doing in the first place, listening to
some "nimrod" on the phone for two hours explaining the "how to's"
probably won't help either. What might take you three hours (and a
whole lot of frustration) to do would take a seasoned installer (with
all the right tools) about fifteen minutes. I think your house (and
your piece of mind) is definitely worth the two hours the guy might
charge for a "complex" run.
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