I disagree as another poster said "right answer, wrong question"
equal no solution
it for use on the moon. It wouldn't make any difference. I still need
the pipe, and that is all that I was asking for. <<<<<<
yes, you "could" BUT you aren't.....you're here on planet earth with
Also it seems you are assuming that freezing was (is) the relevant
issue. Drains that drain properly don't freeze, seems like drainage is
the issue not freezing.
Providing a solution that survives freezing seems like the wrong
anwser, esp witha small diameter pipe
but hey , "The details of where or why are irrelevant"
I don't care about drainage. That's his problem. If his property
doesn't drain it won't affect me. I only care that his drainage
pipe won't rupture and affect me. So the details of his drain are
EXACTLY AS YOU STATED......When his pipe breaks( it doesn't work
properly) it effects me, otherwise it doesn't effect me.
You are the one that can't comprehend what I am saying so I'll spell
it out for you.
His natural drainage without underground piping or with a plugged line
or with undersized piping will not effect me. My property can handle
the water when it's spread out in a natural way. I can only be
effected by his water if the pipe he runs ALL of the water through
breaks because it is close to my property line and I am downhill from
If you can't understand that then........
"I wish you good luck, you're going to need it."
Well, if it freezes, it isn't going to do much good draining if there
is a source that isn't frozen as could easily be the case in many
What are you draining to have some context for a reasonable solution?
What amount of water does it have to carry?
But, if it is open and a straight run, it's unlikely freezing will
actually cause a heavy walled (Sch 40 or greater) pipe to break as
there would be an open end for expansion relief. Whether a solid pipe
is even needed is, of course, an open question (pun sorta' intended..
Fail to understand the logic here. Making it smaller is almost
guaranteed to increase the likelihood of a solid blockage if it does
freeze as well as making the wall proportionally thinner. Making it
larger (or adding a parallel would seem more advantageous).
But, you still don't explain enough about what the water source is or
the configuration to make a rational answer of an overall solution
rather than trying to solve a specific question which is only a subset
of the actual problem.
As someone else noted, a perforated drain line (it's that black
corrugated stuff they use in backfills around basements where the
purpose in that case of the perforations is for water ingress to be
carried away by the pipe) in a gravel-filled trench _might_ solve the
problem. Sufficient grade to make the water flow so it doesn't ever
stand in the pipe to freeze solid enough to break is also possibly
another. Not enough info to really know much more specific to suggest.
There is a continual flow of water. If that can be maintained then a
one inch pipe will do good enough. If it plugs or freezes that will be
alright as long as it doesn't leak underground and cause a bog.
This drainage system is a flawed system from my uphill neighbor.
(Pool backwash, Funneled backyard slope to a manhole cover,
Downspouts, Sump pump, Stupid engineering/neighbor) I don't care if it
freezes or plugs as long as it doesn't break underground and saturate
my downhill property.
swimming pools in buffalo ny not permitted to backwash onto neighbor's
maybe your local building inspector is your best local advisor on this
assorted drainage problem.
if mosquitoes can breed in any standing water other health problems
occur. [west nile virus, popping up in ny state]
refer to cdc website for your local risk on that.
I have the TWP's building supervisor involved also. I am taking a
multi path approach to getting this solved. The one path I haven't
looked into is notifying the DNR (dept of Natural Resources).
Unknowingly my neighbor is putting his pool waste, downspout,
backyard runoff and sump pump waste into the ground water
supply/water table. We all use wells around here and my guess
is the DNR would have the biggest beef about what is occurring.
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