That's hard to imagine. One could buy a nice regular house in my
area for that.
The median value of houses with mortgages was about $100,000 in 2013.
replying to Dean Hoffman, Iggy wrote:
Agreed! Go figure, Warren Buffet enters the industry and prices "magically"
skyrocket...again. Nothing about the both very easy hurricane resistance nor
highest energy efficiency. Just wolves upon the prey...again.
Not really. Buffet's company reacted to the pre-hurricane market where
buyers wanted more upscale mobile homes. It is not a matter of price
gouging a giving people what they want.
There is an opportunity here to supply a basic, modest priced home.
Rather than gripe about what others chose to make, jump in and start
making the cheaper ones.
If you crash your Chevy, don't blame the Caddy dealer because you cannot
afford what he sells. You won't find a $5000 Chevy any more either.
Since this story seemed to be centered around Naples/Ft Myers Fla it
should also be noted that these trailers need to be 160 MPH wind code
and that is up to 80 MPH more than your average site built home up
north. Bear in mind wind pressure not a linear scale.
That is the reason why so many get blown up. A trailer set in the 70s
only needed to be 80MPH rated if it was rated at all.
It also explains why northern houses sustain so much damage in minimal
storms that we would not even put up the shutters for.
Nope, even your garden shed has to be built to wind code. We don't see
many of those sheet metal things they sell up north and if they are
here, they were put in without a permit (illegally).
There is no exception for size, square footage, portable or any of the
other dodges you get in other places. It is more about them becoming
flying debris than the loss of the shed itself.
"Portable" means you can put it in your garage before a storm, not
that you could pick it up and move it with a crane.
Even things like HVAC condensers require tie downs and these days they
have to be above FEMA elevation so you see them up on concrete block
pads at finish floor height.
On Tuesday, November 21, 2017 at 3:47:41 PM UTC-5, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
There's a trailer park (quite a nice one, thus far) located just
west of our property. We've always imagined trailers rolling across
our lawn like tumbleweeds while we sit snug in our concrete block
house. Of course, our roof would present some difficulties for those
downwind of us, since I think it's held on by gravity. Still,
in 70 years it hasn't gone anywhere. Knock wood.
I don't think it is too hard with new construction to tie down roof to
walls. Gravity is depended to keep the roof on but wind might overcome
it and a few extra braces, whatever, make sure gravity is not overcome.
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 03:36:46 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
Most northern homes are pretty much held together by gravity. The
trusses are toe nailed into the top plate and that is end nailed into
If it is sitting on block there may not even be nuts on the "J" bolts
that are just mortared into one cell of the block holding the top
In Florida the roof is continuously connected to the foundation by
simpson connectors and block walls are reinforced with about 20% of
the cells poured solid and #5 rebar continuous from the foundation to
the 16" poured tie beam on top. Then embedded straps go over the
They have required tie downs on trailers since the 60s and they have
to meet the same wind code as a site built home. There was a time
around 2000 that nobody in the US built a Florida compliant trailer.
It was a problem because you can't get a permit to move an existing,
non-compliant trailer and install it somewhere else.
Until you don't ;-)
Most hurricane damage to structures is because of uplift and internal
pressure lifting the roof off or taking a stick built house right off
the foundation. You guys saw that during "Mediocre Storm Sandy" that
was only "super" because the houses were not built to take even a
minimal tropical storm.
email@example.com posted for all of us...
I agree. I can tell you know I was be facetious. There was a hurricane in P
several years ago in new housing development near a nuclear power generatin
station. All flattened... Gen station didn't even have an alert.
The weight I was referring to was from the govt. I know my house would be a
On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 10:36:18 AM UTC-5, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
That's certainly what I've seen in stick-built houses up here.
I'm not even sure I've got a top plate. The birdsmouth on the
rafter might just rest on the top course of concrete block.
The only studs in my house are in interior walls. I'm sure
my husband has seen the junction of roof and walls, but he's
not available for me to ask right now. It's all buried under
insulation, since we don't have any soffits.
We've got those on the shop that we built in 2006:
Nailed 'em in with my own lily-white hands. (You can always tell
a lady by her hands.)
That's hardcore. Still, I can see why.
I'm pretty sure the trailers next door are tied down in some
way. Maybe not as well as down there.
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