I don't even see a remote possibility of that procedure showing you anything
useful. It's been used to turn the power off to the circuit? By shorting out
I say the redneck method for turning a breaker off for a particular circuit
without having to know which breaker it's on is to short out the hot to the
outlet box with a screwdriver. You already know which circuit(s) the main
Well, I believe the theory is that the romex will heat up like a
toaster element, burning a black streak from its origin to it's
Sort of like on "The Money Pit" when Tom Hanks turns on the kitchen
And careful with that redneck advice, Olaf.
You'll probably get a warning from the safety marshall.
I like a joke as much as the next person but this group is a mix of seasoned
individuals with a wealth off knowlege on may subjects and other who don't
know much about anything. Going on a public forum like this and even
indirectly hinting that shorting out the wiring at the main box might help
a person trace the path of a wire is just plain stupid. If just one person
out of the possible thousands who lurk on this site follows your advise you
could be responsible for someone killing themselves.
I look forward to your response
If someone goes out to usenet and follows advice that gets them killed,
then they shouldn't have been messing with it in the first place.
Usenet is not a qualified, guaranteed safe source of information FOR
ANYTHING, and I don't recall getting the memo that said if you follow
advice given here, everything will turn out just dandy.
I'm also very tired of the line "you could be responsible for someone's
death". If that is true, then the exact opposite is also true - people
giving reliable instuctions on how to do something, and someone follows
it and dies.
By that logic, this group should not exist at all - it's a hazard and
Bottom line is - if you don't know what you are doing, and "it"
involves fuel, electricity, powerful springs (garage doors), or
anything else that holds the potential to kill you (a clothes dryer, a
stove, a microwave) ... then don't fuck with it. Call someone who knows
what they are doing.
If a person isn't smart enough to know their own limitations and
capabilities, a usenet forum isn't going to change a damn thing.
Your response in nothing less and nothing more than I expected.
I have been using usenet for years in my hobby of restoring old cars and in
my sons specialty TIG welding business. Nobody can have all the right
answer to every problem and I have always found most usenet posters to be
very genuine and willing to help others through a difficult situation. The
number of top quality professionals willing to share their knowledge is
amazing to say the least. However I guess it should be expected that their
will always be people like you looking for an opportunity to mess with
Have a great day
Birds of a feather....
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
No doubt all true. However...
Speaking hypothetically suppose some idiot did follow your advice and
shorted the mains and for arguments sake let's say they lived. Then let's
say they sued you for giving them this advice to begin with. It's not
likely they really have a case but they do have the right to sue I believe
(I'm not sure, not an attorney).
So ok, you make your above point and you do probably win the case.
Do you think that the judge or civil adjutant or whoever is just going to
say very good carry on? I think that you would most like have a discussion
with someone in authority about the wisdom of giving life threatening advice
in any forum.
If the person following your advice died I think that while you still might
legally prevail that discussion would be a tad more serious. And some
prosecutor somewhere might make it their business to hit you with some
charge and they might just make it stick.
Not a good idea giving out life threatening advice even if it's obviously a
joke. Just too dangerous.
But what about the other point I made?
Isn't someone giving technically accurate advice just as likely to end
up at the end of a lawsuit in the event someone is killed/injured
If not, why not?
I'm no lawyer but my son is an insurance adjuster and he see courts pay out
judgements on some very strange cases and I don't think it's beyond the
realm of possibilities that and injured or dead persons insurance company
would try and sue you under the subrogation clause of the victims health or
life policy. Now wouldn't that be something we could all laugh about, an
even bigger laugh would be your legal bill.
It's obvious to me a least that your not getting much support for your
twisted way of thinking. I think a lot of respondence are posting more out
of the concern that someone out there might actually think you know what
your talking about. Your obviously an intelligent person but that doesn't
mean your worth listening.
I think you have done more than I have to help me make my point, so I'll let
you play with someone else.
Whatever you say Jimbo.
It's obvious that you are more concerned with getting the last word in
then you are about actually discussing the validity of a topic - which
is good - because as you said: YOU ARE NO LAWYER.
You ain't no Jack Kennedy, either.
Fuck, you don't even match up to the capabilities of rain man.
I think you are right. So I'll let you go back to playing with
And for god's sake PLEASE put me in your killfile.
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