I'm not real serious at this point, but if you can dig it up without too
much trouble I'd appreciate it, just out of curiosity (and maybe they
have a web site I could browse to get a ballpark idea of what it'd cost)
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
What's the difference between half an inch of rain where it runs off the
8 foot driveway onto the lawn or a whole inch of rain on a dirt driveway
and lawn? Nothing.
What's a brook for? Runoff. What's a rive for? Runoff.
Absolutely not true.
Even lawns have runoff with moderate to heavy rains.
Also not true.
The whole idea is a stupid one.
Er...Honi soit qui mal y pense.
(I actually know what LSMFT meant, way back when)
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 19:35:34 -0700 (PDT), "hr(bob) firstname.lastname@example.org"
When streets are "re-asphalted" a machine smooths, removes part, and
roughens up the old asphalt. If the equipment is available this may
be the way to go, otherwise remove the old and establish a smooth
base. Better yet, put in a concrete driveway.
This is done a lot. Many times the defects can reflect thru the new
asphalt. Much depends on the condition of the existing drive. Sometimes
fabric can be put down to help. I think putting a thick layer down such as
4 inches would help as well. Local conditions also apply. What are the
To get back to my original question, assume no concrete, no permeable
stone/pavers. If the base is checkered, but still very firm, would 3
inches of new asphalt be as good as tearing the old out and repaving
with 2 inches of asphalt?
These driveways do NOT NOT NOT facilitate drainage of rainwater into
the lawn -- if any -- quite the
contrary. Water goes straight into the storm drains, carrying with
it the **** described in earlier messages.
What kind of *** do you have in your driveway? I have some weeds and
some dirt, maybe a bit of pollen.
It's not the **** in my driveway, or anybody else's driveway, that
a community concern. Let me try again:
When water runs off a driveway into the gutter, it makes its way to
sea or another body of water, taking along with it all the **** that
and animals have dumped in the gutter.
Since in most (all?) communities, storm water is not treated, the ****
ends up where we definitely do NOT want it to be -- like where our
So, until everybody gets decent and does NOT dump **** in gutters
or let their dogs do on the parkway and shove it in the gutter,
(don't hold your breath), at least let's not add to the swift current
of rainwater carrying **** with it.
In the process, we also help our mini-environment by allowing
to permeate the soil rather than run off.
As mentioned earlier, some large companies have gotten the message
and -- in the process of creating "green" headquarters* -- they
underwater tanks to save rainwater for landscaping, thus saving money
since they don't have to buy so much H2O.
First, I am coming off statement by somebody back in this thread
that driveways facilitate drainage of rainwater. I was quite
startled by that statement.
Now: My (old and narrow) driveway has two concrete strips
with dirt in between. The strips (approx 10 feet) rise quite sharply
from the sidewalk as they approach the gate, where they level off
and run another 25 feet or so to the back patio.
Inside the gate, there is grass between the strips, but outside,
I can't get anything to grow because car always shades it.
So now bare dirt, bordered by lawn on R. side and concrete curb on L.
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