stop and waste valve help needed

You can do better than that. Probably won't even get a nibble let alone set the hook.

I'm really not trolling, I can only find a S&W valve with the outlet on the right. If I were to use the ones all of my local stores sell (yes, including the Real Plumbing Store) then the "waste" feature would be useless as the little drain nipple would be on the inlet side, whereas I need it on the outlet side to let the pipe to the spigot drain dry.

I ASSume this is not a big deal when used on an overhead pipe as if it ends up oriented wrong you just flip the valve over, but in this app. it is important as I can only mount it exactly one way (stem facing away from the wall, flow from left to right, drain nipple on the outlet side facing down.) Otherwise I would have to run about 12' of new 1/2" copper from overhead to come in from the other side, remove the old tee, etc.

nate

Home Depot:

They're really common, so you should be able to find them at other outlets too.

ball valves appear to never fail, i am slowly replacing all my valves with ball valves. the stems dont corrode in place, so in a emergency you dont find them impossible to move.........

Can you just use a standard freezeproof faucet, which has the actual valve part inside the basement? I assume yours is in a basement. Larry

What were your search terms? I just get "the product you are trying to view is not currently available." In fact, I can't find any valves at all on their s***ty web site...

I believe I've ranted on here before about how worthless HD is, so I'm certain they don't stock this. (in no small part because I've looked for just this product every time I've been in the plumbing aisle just to see if I've missed something.)

nate

I could, but the sillcock is actually hidden under a deck. I was going to extend it up above the deck which means maintaining the current setup would be preferable.

nate

Link works here; maybe it's related to location.

Anyway: Store SKU# 295723 1/2 In. Full Port Solder Forged Brass Ball Valve With Drain

Model 107-553HC

Plug the SKU into your local store.

Nope, no workee.

that was enough to determine that that is a Mueller/B-K valve though, so your research was helpful. Now I just have to find someone that stocks it.

Do they make an opposite "handed" version by chance? just in case I ever need one of those? All the stores around here do stock Mueller/B-K but the only S&W valves they have are actual stop valves, and they flow in the opposite direction. Never actually seen a ball type S&W valve that I recall...

nate

Ah, I figured it out - I hadn't selected a store.

"not sold online."

GRR. bastards.

nate

It would look like this (close):

Oren

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but backwards, I assume. :(

nate

Can't you just rotate it 90 or 180 degrees?

Speedy Jim - is your friend.

Oren

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Someone may have already suggested this, but I didn't read the whole thread...

Ditch the double valve setup and replace it with a "frost proof sill c*ck", which is readily available and inexpensive. Basically the handle and spout are outside and the actual valve seat is inside. They also incorporate the vacuum breaker function required in the newer codes.