Splicing Romex wire ...

I need to splice some Romex wire, don't really want to mount a junction box ! I have seen some products like what is in these links, but I don't like those either. I have had bad experience with "fork" connectors in the past.

My plan was just to strip, twist, solder, and shrink-wrap, tape or both.

Anyone have experience with fixing Romex ? Thanks

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Reply to
Sid 03
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Where are this splice going to be? Inside a wall or exposed. Different codes apply.

Why don't you want to use a junction box?

P.S. You can typically trim links as I have done by eliminating everything starting with the first "?". The rest is all tracking info. It's not 100%, but very, very close. Easy enough to test.

Reply to
Marilyn Manson

Either use a junction box (and note that it must be permanently accessible) or pull a new wire from end to end.

Reply to
Scott Lurndal

Marilyn, Thank you for the follow up. Location: stud-bay. Junction box: unsightly, just want to make it look clean. Thanks for the tip on links, hadn't thought about that before.

Reply to
Sid 03

What about this...

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Reply to
Marilyn Manson

Never mind...might be discontinued.

Reply to
Marilyn Manson

Those enerflex type devices are only listed for splicing NM cable in modular homes (between modules).

550.15(K) Component Interconnections. Fittings and connectors that are intended to be concealed at the time of assembly shall be listed and identified for the interconnection of building components. Such fittings and connectors shall be equal to the wiring method employed in insulation, temperature rise, and fault-current withstanding and shall be capable of enduring the vibration and shock occurring in mobile home transportation
Reply to
gfretwell

Not arguing, asking...

What about this discussion re: 2017 and 2020 NEC 334.40(B) and 300.15(H).

Lots of back and forth but I'm not sure I see a definite yes or no.

Appears to be OK for an exposed "repair" in any type of building. Appears.

In any case, for the OP, "strip, twist, solder, and shrink-wrap, tape or both" is absolutely not allowed, anywhere. (AFAIK)

Reply to
Marilyn Manson

Indeed.

"The 2014 Code cycle adopted a more precise language when discussing these splicing devices - declaring they must be listed (such as UL) and deemed a nonmetallic sheathed cable interconnector device. So that no confusion could be had as to the type of splicing mechanism being referred to for this purpose. Section 334.40(B) in the 2014 NEC also removed permission for using the device as part of 'rewiring' as the previous Code cycle(s) had stated. Replacing that language with REPAIR wiring only. So that a NM cable accidentally punctured with a screw or nail or nicked while fishing a wall could still qualify for this splicing procedure. But no permission existed in the 2014 NEC for using the splicing device outside of repair work. Also, the requirement for the NM cable to be 'fished' if it were to be spliced was also removed. That is because the only time you are now permitted to use the device is for repair work and not for extending wiring (rewiring work) when the wiring is too short."

Reply to
Scott Lurndal

When the Enerflex device was announced it was being promoted as a way you could splice and even fish Romex without a box. (using those articles). Then the NRTLs, U/L principally removed, the listing of that class of device for anything but putting modular home units together. I am not sure how the building community feels about it today but many years ago when I was in the middle of this, they hated the device. I am guessing it was easier to lift the listing than it was to get a code change through the 3 year process and wait for the states and municipalities to adopt it. This is the listing

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INTERCONNECTORS (QAAV) GENERAL This category covers self-contained interconnectors employing pressure cable connectors, insulation displacement or insulation piercing connectors for splicing or tapping nonmetallic (NM) sheathed cable. These interconnectors are intended for installation in accordance with Section 336.21 and Articles 545, 550 and 551 of NFPA 70, ??National Electrical Code.?? These devices have been evaluated for equivalency to Type NM cable in insulation and temperature rise, and for capability to withstand fault currents, vibration and mechanical shock that may occur during transport of the units in which they are use

Reply to
gfretwell

I'd modify that to pull a new wire from wherever a box or boxes can be used. For example might be able to cut it, drop both ends down to the basement or up into the attic, put two boxes there and wire between.

Reply to
trader_4

Thanks for everyone's input, I learned a lot from the discussion. I am going to breakdown and install a junction box Thank you.

Reply to
Sid 03

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