My 89 F150 will no longer draw gas from the main tank. Not a biggee
as the truck is my beat to crap 'wooding' rig and hasn't been more
than 30 miles fromthe house in over 20 years.
I want to recover the gas that is in the tank (full) somehow. Is
there a way to beat the anti-siphon baffle? Or is there some other
way to drain that tank?
if you will never use it again punch a hole in the bottom of the tank
and have a pan at the ready to catch the leaking gasoline.
if the gasoline is very old in the tank it might be best to just
forget about it, gasoline spoils after sitting too long, so you could
put the gasoline in another vehicle and muck it up.....
so you were warned
Gas in that tank is fresh. I last used out of it about 2 weeks ago
when I filled it. I discovered the problem yesterday when I was on
the way home with a load of wood. Reserve near empty, switch to full
main and nothing. Tried it twice. Will be trying it again tomorrow
hoping it is just a sticking switch.
I rather suspect the pump is in the tank, probably best to drop tank
remove pump and then pump the tank dry.
electric pumps in tanks frequently fail suddenly, sometimes smacking
the tank with a hammer will shock the pump into running.
I have done the same thing on vehicle starters
Thanks all. Sounds like a trip to the local mechanic. I'm waaayyy to
old to crawl around under a rig anymore. Ford shop says "dunno what
will be found, I don't know what type of system is in the truck,
couild be switch, pump, or something else". They didn't even know if
there was a pump in both tanks or a common pump. Real helpful guys,
how about looking in the freakin manual to see what system is there?
Of course I _could_ visit the library but it still comes back to
someone else will have to get the gas out if I can't siphon it.
That tank is held in place by 2 metal straps on each end of the tank.
It's pretty simple to loosen/disconnect the straps, lower the tank and
you have easy access to the gas, via the hole after removing the pump
assembly on the top of the tank.
You can disconnect the fill pipe/access, about 15" past the cap (half
way between the cap and tank), behind the fender/wheel well. There is
a rubber hose, inside the pipe, that needs to be removed, then the
tank can be syphoned (after reassembling the pipe, if you want to).
If you try to replace the rubber hose, it will kink, and subsequent
filling of the tank will take forever, as the gasoline tries to flow
past the kink. Those rubber hoses are inserted into that pipe in a
I would think the switch, for transferring from one tank to the other,
is bad, not the pump.
Senior citizen, fixed income, never used but for short trips. Do
_you_ want to contribute to the bill for getting it fixed? The truck
is so trashed (damn good motor drive line though) that no-one will
ever buy it anyhow.
You may be surprised. About 10 years ago we bought a new pickup at work and
wanted to sell the F-150 that was a physical mess, loaded with rust after 14
years. We figured it may bring $500 if we got luck, but we put an ad in the
local paper for $1200. First caller was a farmer. He drove it around the
parking lot and pulled out $1200 cash. The truck would never see the road
again, but he figured it would be on the farm for years to come.
It's simple to know what you have. DO YOU HAVE FUEL INJECTION? If
yes, the pump is in the tank. If you have a CARBURETOR, the pump is
on the engine. You may be too old to crawl under the car, but come
on, I'm sure you can determine if you have a carb or F.I.
The '89 F-150 I had was fuel injection, long wheel base. The tank was
easy to lower and the straps were not rusted to any degree. You
didn't need to be a mechanic, just have common sense, to do a detailed
inpsection or a fix, relative to the poster's described problem, which
was similar to what I had to do when I removed my gas tank.
If yard is level, how is siding buried on only 2 sides? Fixing yard is
proper solution, but you need more than a trench. I passed up one
otherwise interesting house while house-shopping because of buried
siding. Drove by a few months later, and they had about a 3-foot gravel
path around house where they had dug it out, with a railroad-tie
retaining wall about a foot tall on the other side. To my eye, it looked
like there would still be water problems in heavy rain, and with spring
Any water problem is fixable, if you throw enough money at it. Trouble
is, the required amount of money can quickly approach what the house is
worth. Need to find these problems before you buy, if at all possible.
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 21:22:15 +0000 (UTC), firstname.lastname@example.orgNoOnSePsAtMar.org
(Larry W) wrote:
My gas tanks have always failed on the top. They didn't leak unless they were
full(ish). I just had one replaced on my wife's car. They wanted $1500 for
the tank and another $500 labor. At least I found a tank in a junk yard.
Being an 89, I dont know if you have fuel injection or carburetor. If
you have FI then the fuel pump is in the tank. If so, the pump may
have died. But first check the wiring. Put a meter on the line near
the tank. Flip switch to that tank and see if there is power.
One way to empty it if there is not a simple wiring problem, would be
to put two small floor jacks under the tank with a wide plank between
them. Jack it tight, but not enough to crush the tank. Remove the
tank straps, and lower the jacks slowly. Yea, disconnect all hoses
and wires as you go down. Since the tank is full, it will be heavy,
so I'd have someone down there to make sure it stays on the plank. Or
just put a bunch of old couch cushions or an old foam pad there. so if
it tips it wont wreck the tank. When it's all the way down, remove
the ring holding the fuel pump or float "thingie" ( i cant think of
the correct word), then pull that out, and have someone help pour the
gas in a clean 5 gallon pail (or several of them). Then you'll need a
funnel to put the gas in proper containers. Of course, NO SMOKING
when doing this.
OR, if it's under the truck bed and accessible, you can do as I did to
a GMC pickup. I got tired of lowering the tank because of those
crappy intank fuel pumps. I just cut a hole in the truck bed right
above the fuel pump. Then I made a panel to screw over the hole.
Now, if I want to work on the fuel pump I can just remove about 10
screws and pull the pump.
Those damn in the tank fuel pumps are the biggest mistake the auto
makers ever did. The mechanics love them though, because they are
getting rich on this mistake. A local mechanic told me replacing in
the tank pumps accounts for 1/3 of his business, and a typical job is
$600 to $800. Deduct $60 to $130 for the pump itself, and he is
making a big profit on every job, which he said averages 3 hours of
work, depending on how rusted things are.
Shit, I remember changing the old (on the engine) fuel pumps on the
shoulder of the road which took 20 minutes and cost $20 to $30 for a
new pump, gasket, and sealer, and they would last another 10 years.
Fuel injection in and of itself seems to be a good thing, but they
really need to devise a better pump system. I dont know why they cant
put them under the hood or at least NEXT TO the tank, nto IN it.
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 20:47:07 -0700 (PDT), Harry K
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