Plumbers have a right to make money and people have the right to give it
to them. I on the other hand will do that stuff myself and use the
saved money to buy fun things like vacations or put it away for
My father did everything himself and although he made much less than
everyone in our neighborhood, we always had a nicer home and had
everything we needed. When something broke at night or on the weekend
he was able to fix it instead of suffering through until a repairman
could come. If we had a flat tire, he'd change the tire, instead of
spraying a can of fix a flat into it.
I guess there are two types of people. People that will spend money and
people that won't. I grew up learning to save money and only hire
people to do work that I can't do myself. I see more and more people
out there who can't even replace a burnt out light bulb in their car or
replace a bathroom faucet.
Oh well, do what you want. I hope you have a good time at the office
while I am on vacation.
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:51:13 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
Yes. Avoid them if possible. They obviously don't want you business.
Ask your neighbors for referrals to competent "handy man" type people.
Alternatively, look in the classifieds. If you have to get a
"stranger" start him with your smallest job first. See how that goes
make a decision based on that.
I can get my plumber in an hour if it is an emergency, but routine work is
booked for months. He'll put us ahead of others at times but it can still
be a few weeks. He won't even take calls from potential new customers.
I gave the electrician the "go-ahead" on a job two weeks ago and he just
started today. Probably a three day job for him.
My HVAC guy took three weeks to quote a $7,000 job and it will be another
few before he can get started And this is because he gives us some
priority as we store his boat for the winter in one of our warehouses for
Good tradesmen are in demand and can make a good living. Anyone with the
sills can have a good career with work for life.
Sometimes, yes, "these guys" do have so much work. It depends on the
potential customer. Sometimes I'll get a call from someone who starts
breaking my chops and conducting an inquisition before I have even
seen the job. They'll demand a firm estimate over the phone to be
followed up by the FREE written estimate, the scheduling of which is
to be at their convenience regardless of my work schedule. Before I've
even seen the job they demand chapter and verse about how the job will
actually be done and what materials will be used.
Anyone who is any good doesn't need that kind of customer. They have
plenty of work. I just thank them for calling and tell them I'll get
back to them when I can assure them of a firm appointment for an
estimate. Then I just forget about them. Life's too short.
Did I describe you?
Although you don't want these kinds of customers I can probably tell you
that these types of customers probably don't want you either. You just
said that you tell them you will call them back but then you just forget
about them. That tells me that (1) you are a liar and (2) you don't
have much respect for your customers.
The reason some customers make such demands is because there are a lot
of contractors out there who show up, do crappy work, and then cash the
pay check before the customer has time to figure out that the work that
was done was sloppy and needs to be fixed. Then when they try to get
the contractor to come back and fix it they get the runaround of "that's
the way it is supposed to be" or "that's as good as I can get it based
on what you have" or "you should have said something before I left the
The customer is the one PAYING to get the work done and they are the one
who has to LIVE with the results. They have ever RIGHT to be demanding
and picky. You can choose not to work for them but at least be man
enough to tell them you don't want to instead of being a lowlife liar
that leaves them hanging.
If you do all of your own work, how do you 'know' this stuff??
IME and IMNSHO as a homeowner, I've found contractors to be pretty good, even
excellent. That's probably because I go through word-of-mouth when I can, and,
even if not say for a small job, I can tell who is good and who isn't. And
approach the whole thing as something of a partnership.
Maybe you have a problem dealing with people that prevents you from making these
connections and observations.
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