Running a Garden Hose 16.8 Miles.....

A friend of mine lives 16.8 miles from me. His well pump appears to have died. I went there and checked it for him, and there is power going to the submersible pump, but no water coming out. I also popped off the well cover and can not hear any sound, where a pump can usually be heard.

I told him that he need to get a well driller, or plumber who can pull the pump.

Anyhow, I was just joking around, when I told him that he's welcome to run a garden hose from my house to his place. We got to laughing about this, and said it would probably take at least 500 50ft hoses.

It turns out I was way off..... On my way home, I watched the odometer. He's 16.8 miles away. That's 88,704 feet. (roughly 1775 50ft garden hoses).

Anyhow, this is just nonsense, but I was thinking about it, and wonder if there would be any pressure at the end of 1775 hoses. First off, the hoses would have to go thru culverts so they were not driven over. Then the hose would be going up and down a lot of hills and valleys, in this case, the hose would have to cross a large river, which in itself could be a problem. But like I said, this is just nonsense, but I am wondering if there would be any pressure? I sort of doubt it.

I've already connected SEVEN 50ft hoses (350ft) when I had frozen hydrants, and needed to get water to my animals, and I could notice a considerable slowing of the water, and its pressure.

Anyhow, just for grins, is there any way to calculate water pressure thru a 5/8" garden hose per foot? And just to mention it, my pressure tank gauge varies from 35 to 50lbs.

Reply to
Paintedcow
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Sure, Pressure at the other end of the hose is exactly the same as at the head end. Problem is friction. The issue is FLOW.

Reply to
mike

Assumes no change in altitude.

Reply to
mike

There would be considerable altitude difference, because that river is the low point, and the hose would go downward a lot, then have to go back up hill to his house.

I dont know what the altitude difference would be, nor how to determine the altitude of my home, his home, and the river. But I do know there are a lot of hills and valleys and some are quite steep!

Actually, how does someone find out the altitude of their home (or any other place)? Is this something that can be found on the web, based on the physical address?

Reply to
Paintedcow

I'm amazed that anyone would even respond to something as ridiculous as this question

Reply to
ChairMan

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Reply to
taxed and spent

I don't know if you're posting a serious problem, looking for a real solution, but I'll take a chance and give you a possible solution that will probably fix the problem.

In the control box is a black capacitor called the start capacitor. Have your friend turn off the power at the breaker, take out the capacitor, take it to a water well company, or Home Depot and buy another one. The one he gets may or may not look exactly alike, but will probably work. Put in the new one, turn on the power and see if it works. I bet it will.

I've seen start capacitors that were half the original size that worked, and vice versa. They're usually around $25.00 dollars. You can get replacements on eBay for less but you have to wait for shipping.

The silver capacitor is called the run capacitor. When the pump starts, but won't continue to run after an indefinite period of time, it needs to be replaced.

Reply to
dangerous dan

The thing you should have told us is how deep is the well. If it is 50-60 feet, pulling the pump is doable for a couple of guys. Much deeper than that and you need a machine or really big guys. You can make it a whole lot easier if you snake an air hose down the pipe and blow as much water out as you can. Then 80 might not be that hard. Hope they put a rope on the pump.

Reply to
gfretwell

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FWIW, you can connect two houses with plastic pipe, adapters and washing machine hoses, outdoor tap to outdoor tap.

Reply to
My 2 Cents

If you have a smartphone, there's prolly an app for that.

Reply to
cheezwhiz

Use PEX

Reply to
DerbyDad03

Back in my college days, I learned formulas for a couple sizes of fire hose, to calculate the pressure loss. This was important if you were running fire pump, and wanted to provide the correct pressure at the nozzle. I'm sure there are formulas for garden hose. 3/4 would have less pressure loss than 1/2 inch. I do not know the formulas for garden hose.

Would you like the formulas for 2 1/2 or 3 inch diameter fire hose?

Reply to
Stormin Mormon

That would be the case if there were zero flow, and zero leaks.

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Stormin Mormon

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Stormin Mormon

You may be able to find a topographical map of your area. The valleys and peaks don't make any difference, the down cancels out the up. What matters are source and destination.

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Reply to
Stormin Mormon

I'm hoping to hear from Danny D, who has the experience as a water hauler.

So, why DID you comment on this ridiculous question?

Reply to
Stormin Mormon

When I was a teen, I came home one day to find a garden hose I didn't recognize, connected from the spigot on my parents house, and going to the spigot on the next door neighbors house. I asked what was with that. Find out that the water department was doing some serious repairs. They got permission from my parents, and ran the hose so the neighbors could have water while they were doing the repairs.

The water guy took our meter off, so we had free water for a couple days.

Reply to
Stormin Mormon

Some cut.

Why not type "pressure loss calculator" into a few search engines and see which results you like the best?

Reply to
Dean Hoffman

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Reply to
bob_villain

Google earth . It's pretty accurate , shows the altitude difference in just a few feet for instance on a hill or something .

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Terry Coombs

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