We bought our house 2 years ago. It was built in the early 20's and had
an addition added on in the 70's. When we bought it the inspector did not
go under the addition that was added in the 70's. But the termite
inspectors did. The termite inspector noted some rotten boards due to
moisture. Problem 1, advance 2 years, house has abestos siding on it and
is starting to fall off due to the the main boards being rotten so there
is nothing there to keep it attached. Problem 2, the toilet to the origial
bath that was built in the 20's tilts when you sit on it now. It seems
like the house is sinking. The outer part of the home is lower then the
middle part. Is there anything homeowener's will cover or are we own our
own to fix this MAJOR problem?
The asbestos containing materials need to be abated before
anything disrupts or disturbs the structure... Burning off
asbestos containing materials would make some of the
particles airborne and cause an environmental hazard...
No government agency would want to have any part of
taking or participating in some action which will cause
the release of asbestos into the environment...
It is not an insurance problem, it is somewhat normal wear on a house with
perhaps some poor construction techniques. . Not to mention a shoddy
inspector that did not do a complete job. The termite guy gave you a tip,
but evidently you did not do anything to prevent further damage. You may
have also had some recourse with the seller at that time.
Step one is to determine the source of the moisture and remove it. Then
replace the rotted boards. You need someone that knows what they are
looking for and at to give a good assessment of what needs to be done. Then
There are all degrees of moisture problems possible, so if you can post
photos or give a better description it would help. Asbestos siding
falling off due to "main boards being rotten"??? That could indicate a
little rot around a couple of gaps in siding, or it could indicate the
whole structure ready to fall down. What's under the asbestos siding?
How did you determine the outer part of the house is lower than the
middle part? Floors slant? How much?
As for the rocking toilet, that is likely due to leaks around the base
of the toilet, causing the subfloor to rot and the bolts holding the
toilet to loosen. That might be a problem a homeowner can repair, if
you prepare in advance and find out how to do it right.
If the home inspector neglected serious problems that existed at the
time of the purchase, it might be worthwhile taking the inspection
paperwork to an attorney. How much did purchase cost? Mortgage?
Well your LOCAL inspectors are flat out wrong and/or ignorant...
Disposal of asbestos containing materials is regulated by the
US Department of Environmental Protection... So don't take
the local yokel's word on that one...
Don't try to remove it yourself, as you are not licensed to
properly dispose of it and therefore you would have nowhere
to take such toxic waste... You need to read up on the
federal Clean Air Act and the Toxic Substances Control Act
which dictate the need to be licensed in order to remove
Asbestos and what protective procedures must be carried
out while removing it and how it must be packaged for
Knowingly removing asbestos improperly is federal criminal
Wrong, you can do it.
Some government agencies tell you how to remove the siding?
The removal procedures described in this publication are intended to help
homeowners minimize health risks associated with do-it-yourself asbestos
removals. However, it should be understood that with any removal project
some release of asbestos fibers into the air is unavoidable and there are no
known safe levels of asbestos exposure.
Montana has similar information available to homeowners. Probably lots of
This is from Maine http://www.maine.gov/dep/rwm/asbestos/sidingremoval.htm
They even tell you where to get rid of it.
Incorrect. It may vary by state, but at least in New York (the first
state that came up on a Google search):
"While it is legal for New York homeowners to remove asbestos from
their own homes, it is highly recommended to hire a professional to
remove, encase, or encapsulate asbestos."
"It should be noted that private homeowners are not generally subject
to the [paperwork] regulations outlined above; however, these
regulation are in place for the good of public safety. If you are a
homeowner and need asbestos removed from your home, it is always best
to have it done by a qualified professional. Otherwise, the best
course of action is to follow the regulations and procedures above."
It may or may not be a good idea to do your own removal, but it
certainly isn't illegal everywhere.
And since you live in one of those states would you mind explaining
how you would comply with all of the regulations, how to build a
proper containment to remove the siding and where to get the special
asbestos trash bags which are thicker plastic than normal ones
and marked to identify that the items contained within are hazardous ?
While it is possible for a few homeowners out there to know enough
about what they are doing to do the actual work, you are describing
the 0.00001% of the single family home owners out there who can
do it properly... Make ANY mistakes or oversights at all, and you
have committed a federal crime and have incurred the liability to
correct your mistakes to the government's and your neighbor's
satisfaction to remove any potential or proven hazards your
sub-par removal work created... That is the reason why almost all
property owners call in a trained, licensed and INSURED company
to do the removal work and assume any liabilities it might create
because such companies are experienced in such matters...
OK... Keep saying that after you improperly remove it and you have
nodules in your lungs at your autopsy... Oh, you won't be around
to see who was correct at that point, will you...
Having asbestos containing materials in or on your home effects
its resale value and impacts what kind of work you can do to your
home without setting up containment when you do anything which
will penetrate, cut or otherwise disturb the siding...
That means that if i was your neighbor and saw you drilling the
outside wall of your house for something and saw ANY dust,
because there is asbestos in the siding and you can not prove
or certify in any way at all that you are NOT releasing asbestos
particles in doing your work, I could report you and you would
be in trouble under a variety of laws for not following proper
safety procedures in doing work which disturbs asbestos
It is quite clear that you think because you have an owner
occupied home that the rules which must be followed don't
apply to you... Well they do, the work area has to be wrapped
in plastic, everything has to be kept wet, then double bagged
in approved bags for hazardous asbestos waste disposal...
Since the proper items with which to remove asbestos aren't
available at the local HD or Lowe's I am very certain you wouldn't
have the foggiest idea of where to obtain them...
Oh IF I die, there won't be an autopsy. And after the hundreds if not
thousands of drum brake assemblies i blew out with compressed air in the
70's and 80's, i'm not really worried at 52 years of age that i'm gonna
get something from a damn piece of siding. LMAO!
remove the "not" from my address to email
anyone can sue for anything. just the hassle factor could become a
and heck theres a fed law anyone working with lead based paint must be
certified. certinally such a old home has lead based paint too..
Curious. When was lead based paint outlawed? Any house built prior
to that _will_ have it.
Yes, as for asbestos siding, it is encapsulated and can be disposed of
normally unless you beat it to pieces while removing it. No need to
do that as it comes off easily.
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