Every three or four years, the roots need to be cut out of my main
line. Typically, since I have no clean out, the rooter guy needs to
snake it from the main vent on the roof ( only one bathroom.) This
year, after the drain got sluggish, I shopped around. Seems most
rooters won't do the roof method anymore and want to sell me a clean-out
installation in front of my house. Right where the cast iron meets
clay. What is involved and how bad of a job would it be for a DIY'er to
install this clean out? I don't mind digging and basic plumbing is not
beyond me! I'm just not up on current methods. What parts are
involved? ( Are we talking a 6" "Y" and rubber clamps?? Or more??) I
just don't want to pony up the $600-$1000 these companies are asking!
I don't blame them for not wanting to work on the roof.
Yes, could be as easy as a WYE and rubber/clamps.
for all possible combinations.
You will be faced with cutting out a section of the
clay pipe (the CI may not extend far enough out).
You can rent a big diamond blade saw. Or...use a
masonry (abrasive) blade in a circ saw and make a
few cuts around. Wear goggles/dust mask and keep
your legs/arms far from the cutting.
Instead of a WYE, consider a cleanout TEE; that permits
snaking in either direction. Glue pieces of PVC pipe
onto the WYE or TEE to make up the gap cut in the pipe
(less about 1/2" overall). Slide the rubber booties
onto the PVC stubs and drop it in place. Then slide
them back onto the clay/CI pipes.
well, i don't know anything about the job, but i'm pretty
sure the plumbing part is no big deal. you're paying
for the labour of digging the hole mostly. and you're
paying someone else to take the chance that the
hole will collapse and kill him. i dug deep in front
of my house a few years ago, and thinking back,
i was very lucky. i wouldn't do it again.
they probably shore up the sides and are more knowledgable
than you about soil and danger. also, if you do it and the
plumber guy says "it's not right", what will you do then?
Hick makes a very good point about safety on any excavating
you do. If you live where the sewers are deep, that can
be a real factor.
Also, check with the sewer utility/city to find out
if cleanout provisions were made at the curb. That's
quite common and the access may have been covered over
long ago. Around here, some cities will even perform the
rooting for the homeowner. Worth a phone call...
We're only talking 2-3' deep up at the house, if even that. Goes down
hill from there. I know, I've been in that horrid crawl space. At
least I have new ABS up to the CI at the toilet. ( The WC being the
last before it heads for the street.) No more problems with washer lint
and such. Now it's just roots from the planters up in the front of the
If I do it wrong and rooter man says he don't like it, I'll probably get
my own machine. Since I've been in the house, I've had them out about
three times at $150 a pop. Home Depot has the Rigid or Cobra, 100'
power rooter for about that much.
Thanks for the tips!
We had rooter calls twice per year for several years at $75.00 per
then I got some Root Kill at HD. Last flush at night with the
coppersomething twice per year and no more rooter calls. Plumber was
here recently for another problem, under kitchen sink, and while here
ran a camera down main line. A FEW small roots were seen. I dug the
2-3' and plumber put in the TEE for about $200.00.
On 24 Sep 2004 04:54:46 EDT, Mark and Kim Smith
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