Turned in my plans to the town to replace my Al wire with copper.
The inspector called me today and said I may need to completely remove
the Al wire. He was going to check on it so it is not that he is
trying to gove me a hard time.
Anyone know if the NEC addresses abandoned wires behind finished
My plan was to pull all that I could out and where staples prevented
it cut the wires so they could not be reached.
Ditto here. I lived in an early 70s
house for 38 years. I did pigtail all
of the aluminum at the outlets instead
of daisy chaining. Never had a problem
other than noticing a bit more voltage
drop on those circuit when starting a
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:13:05 -0700 (PDT), Limp Arbor
Generally speaking, they only want you to remove all the wire you can
get to without disturbing the building finish beyond what it took to
get the new wire in. Basically if you can see it and pull it out, do
Good news! The inspector just called me back and said when I'm
removing the old Al wire just cut it off where accessible.
As long as none of the ends are exposed where it could be used again
I'm good to go.
re: "As long as none of the ends are exposed where it could be used
again I'm good to go."
Why is it that I'm picturing the *next* homeowner cursing you as he
tries to extend the wires to a switch or receptacle?
"D*mn Him! Why did he cut these friggin' wires so far back? He could
have left me just a little more to work with!"
Years ago, our home's garage floor was 36" below the house floor
level, while the ceilings were the same. I had constructed a new
garage, and wanted to convert part of the old one to a game room.
I went the permit route, rather than just going ahead on my own.
The width of the new room was 14'. To keep the flooring level, I
built a knee wall 7' out from the foundation and raised the floor
using 2 X 10's set 16" OC and bridged.
The inspector who looked at my framing told me I had to remove the
2 X 10's and replace them with 2 X 8's, (possibly 2 X 6's- it was
a long time ago) since I was actually only spanning about 7' with
the joists. Needless to say, logic eventually prevailed.
re: "Years ago, our home's garage floor was 36" below the house floor
level, while the ceilings were the same."
The ceilings were also 36" below the house floor level?
You'd have to be *really* short to walk around in that space.
Speaking of inspectors, I once "rewired" a modest home with
concrete block interior and exterior walls. The fellow who had
initially wired the home did it by laying 18ga. extension cord in
the mortar joint. Later, he became the wiring inspector for the
Nonsense. Most of the ones I've dealt with make great sense. Every inspector has
been great. The "tank and boiler inspector" that came out and tested the spare
used air compressor tank I bought was spectacular.
I get so tired of the bitching about government employees. I've dealt with far
worse in private businesses I've dealt with. Try getting a useful answer at Home
Depot, for instance.
Bob, I respectfully disagree. The government employees I have
encountered in almost all contact with the government at any level
are folk too dumb or too lazy to make a living in any other field.
This is even worse when it comes to elected office.
I've not visited England. I'd sure like to, some day. I've
heard the countryside is more breath taking beautiful than
much any where else in the world.
And, the people are kind and friendly. Except for the
Mussies, drug addicted TWOK'ers, the Yobs, ruffians,
gypsies, and such.
For a small country, we certainly have a wide variety of
scenary though we
don't do deserts, glaciers or canyons!
CY: The pictures I've seen, very elegant. James Herriot's
books, and the TV series, I really enjoyed. One email friend
of mine sent me a couple photos of the country side near
Thirsk (I'm sure I spelled that wrong) where Herriot lived.
Of course, that's a pen name for the man.
In the words of Douglas Adams "mostly harmless", though we
do have our share
of the latter groups you mention.
CY: I read Hitchhikers's Guide when I was in college. It
was a bit of cult classic at that time, and I was curious
what I'd missed. It's quite a book. Well, I'd best get some
more salted peanuts, and try to find my towel. The towel is
not optional. Do I see yellow?
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