Removing linoleum

I have tiled our master bedroom with ceramic tiles to replace an old carpet, and it came out looking very nice. Now I need to do the same with the master bathroom, and there is my problem. The current floor is a two-layered vinyl. The bottom layer is linoleum glued to the cement slab and the top one is self-stick tiles. Now I know I can peel off the self-stick tiles by applying heat (using an iron on top of a towel or a hair dryer). My question is: What is the easiest way to remove the linoleum? Thanks.

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hat
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If you can get the stick on tiles off you can tile over the original lino. getting the lino off the slab plain and simple is just hard work. If your worried about the tile sticking I replaced all the tile in my kitchen/ dinning area about 300 sq. ft. It was glued on lino on piratical board underlayment I only got 2 12X12 tiles off in one piece so it will stick to lino. I not sure if trying to tile over stick on tiles is wise.If you are going to use the same tile you might have to remove the lion to keep the height the same. if it's a small area a good scraper , 54" coat and a 6" hat .

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Sac Dave

just leave it.

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Steve Barker

If you've got an air compressor, a scraper kit will do a pretty good job. Like this:

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You can try a long-handled scraper (about $30.00).

Once you get it down to the dregs, a belt sander with a coarse grit should remove most of the still-stuck stuff and level the surface.

Absent compelling reasons to the contrary, I'd leave the original linoleum in place.

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HeyBub

Never leave it as it can start to peel after the fact and ruin the entire do it right or not at all

Reply to
jim

it can't peel with heavy ceramic tile on it.

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Never leave it as it can start to peel after the fact and ruin the entire do it right or not at all

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Steve Barker

good luck with that belt sander idea....... that belt will be clogged within about 4 revolutions.

s

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Steve Barker

Knowing the age of the home might help get a better answer.

It is going to depend on a couple things: The quality of the vinyl and the type of glue used to install it.

Sometimes it rips right up and other times it becomes a project you wish you never started.

If it was installed in the last 30 years it is most like glued down with a water based glue and the removal process is much easier.

Get the lino off and soak the floor and let it sit then scrape it up.

Unless you are absolutely certain that it modern vinyl DO NOT use a sander. They really old stuff contained asbestos.

I always do things the "hard way" and would never lay tile over vinyl. Backerboard over vinyl and then tile I would do. But you have concrete down there waiting for a bond with the thinset. No backerboard needed.

Colbyt

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Colbyt

"Steve Barker" wrote in news:6-Sdne_zU9soC8vUnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

Where'd you find belts that good? :-)

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Red Green

LOL! i hear ya.

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Steve Barker

Rent an electric floor stripper. It's like a big motorized putty knife that is very sturdy, very sharp and oscillates back and forth very fast. It rolls on two wheels with the blade extending out the front. Works very well on concrete. With a sharp blade, it will get up almost all the old adhesive as well as all the lino.

Be aware that some old lino contains asbestos. If yours does then better to leave it and lay the new floor over it.

HTH,

Paul F.

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Paul Franklin

Eek! You're right. I was thinking about sex.

Probably a wire brush or Propane torch would help.

Damn! Thinking about sex again.

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HeyBub

So? There has never been a proven case of any deleterious effect caused by any commercial asbestos product. This includes the dust from brake pads.

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HeyBub

I tiled over my linolium seven years ago with no problem. I started to try to get the linolium up and my bro in law told me it was a waste of time. I think I'd still be trying to get that stuff up. Don't waste your time.

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in2dadark

Really? tell that to the folks who got cancer because they worked in shipyards and locomotive shops where asbestos was used as insulation.

And to think someone thought you were just a gadfly...

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George

Back in the '60s we (once) used a Bernz-O-Matic to heat the tiles and soften the old mastic for scraping. Worked pretty good... until as the last tiles were being heated and the flame reached across that tile to the "bare" floor the room burst into flames.

So, if you're going to do it that way, I'd recommend plenty of ventilation.

Linoleum doesn't require much in the way of adhesive, since it's as flat on the bottom as the top. If you can just scape up the tiles and any boogers the leftover mastic should be easy to bury in whatever adhesive you plan to use. -----

- gpsman

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gpsman

Be glad to do so. But there aren't any. At least none have been found.

Oh, there have been people who got cancer AND worked in shipyards, but they got cancer because they got cancer and not BECAUSE they worked in shipyards or around asbestos. I'm sure some would disagree (i.e., trial lawyers) just as there are those who believe in the deleterious effects of silicone breast implants, flouridation, and thimerisol.

I'm not JUST a gadfly. I can also wiggle my nose (but only for private audiences).

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HeyBub

Uh, insulation being applied to ships and locomotives is not a "commercial product" in the sense that brake pads and flooring are "commercial products".

My mother was an executive secretary Johns-Manville for many years. She sat on it, wrote on it, tossed trash in it, walked on it, the offices were a showplace for asbestos. While she did die of cancer she was 90 years old at the time and it was not any of the kinds of cancer that the do-gooders claim are caused by asbestos.

This is another case where our society is allowing professional do-gooders to scare us to death. Yes, it is a health hazard for those who work with it ever day. For some guy pulling up the flooring in his house once in a lifetime, not so much.

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J. Clarke

Tell that to the former shareholders of the old Keene Corporation of which I was one.

Even if has never been proven, why would I or you take a chance with another person's health.

Pardon my bluntness. Your post was just plain dumb and un-informed.

Colbyt

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Colbyt

Keene got sued by thousands of "free money" plaintiffs because Keene manufactured stuff out of asbestos. Blame the trial lawyers, not asbestos.

I'm sorry you lost your investment, but so did the shareholders of Dow-Corning after the breast implant fiasco. Both of you suffered, but not as much as the children that DIE because of unfounded concerns over Thimerisal or (principally in eastern Africa) Polio vaccine. Or, more specifically, those that died in the WTC attacks. Consider:

WTC North Tower: Hit 8:46 a.m. - collapsed 10:28 a.m. WTC South Tower: Hit 9:03 a.m. - collapsed 9:59 a.m.

The North Tower stood for one hour and forty-two minutes while the South Tower survived for only fifty-six minutes. The difference? The North Tower's structural members were insulated with asbestos, the South Tower with potato starch or something similar.

First, because I don't give a fig about another person's health. Second, my mission in life is to confront dogma based on "feelings" rather than fact, thirdly, I'm not taking a chance on another's health - they can make their own decision when provided with the truth.

Your point - about Keene - is, however, well founded. If the OP digs up asbestos he may very well be the subject of an financially ruining lawsuit brought be a neighbor.

I forgive you.

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HeyBub

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