There is a toilet in our basement that I think hasn't been used for
years (we moved in last year). I'd like to remove it.
The flange and pipe are metal.
What do I need to do to cap the sewer line. I don't think I will ever
want to hook this toilet up again.
You won't, but the next owner will. Normal toilet, or one of the special
up-flush models? If the latter, those are expensive and a pain to find.
And is there a sink, or the pipes for one, and a shower as well? If
next owner wants a playroom or man-cave in basement, bathroom or working
stubs for one can be a big selling point. If your heart is set on
ripping it out, cap the pipes cleanly, so they can be reused, and build
the shelves around it. Bottom shelf in a basement setting should be a
few inches off the floor anyway, in case it floods. If you don't know
how to cap pipes, pay the few bucks for a plumber to do it. For just the
sewer, plumbing aisle at the borg should have bolt-on gasketed caps that
will plug it well.
Oh, and the toilet is just a normal one. So yeah, I think the best is
to leave everything in place and just cap...I actually plan on
finishing a portion of the basement and who knows, I might want a
toilet down there someday in the distant future when my kids are
teenagers or something.
I'll go to home depot and see if they have a cap. Do I need to remove
the flange to put the cap on?
Most decent mid priced low flow toilets work just fine, higher end ones
are even better. In fact the good low flow toilets work better than
many old toilets that use much more water. The complete kits for $99.99
are shit. You get what you pay for. I lost track of when I installed
an American Standard Champion 4. Probably over 6 months ago. I do know
that I have never had to plunge it, or even flush it twice to finish the
job. Guaranteed to flush something like 14 golf balls, although I
seldom eat golf balls and when I do I chew them.
Check this out:
I hope you are joking or mixing up "gravity" with some other word. I
never noticed feeling lighter when down in the basement! ;-)
In case you were serious, toilets actually work by siphon action. The
siphon action in the toilet itself, nothing to do with the plumbing.
Once it gets to the plumbing there is no siphon action due to the vent.
OP never said what level his sewer outflow pipe was at. In modern
subdivisions, they are usually partway up basement wall, but if this is
an older urban house or a sloped lot or something, his sewer outflow
could actually be low enough for a conventional toilet to work in the
basement. All depends on how level of basement slab relates to sewer
main level. My basement slab is actually slightly above street level,
but no sewers out here.
I know all this stuff. My pipe is in the basement floor and exits the
house many feet below grade. Being that flow from the basement toilet
is on that essentially horizontal run means that a low flow toilet
often doesn't push the waste far enough in the pipe, and it can build
up just outside the toilet, causing subsequent flushes to be less
effective and prone to backing up. Upstairs, the waste leaves the
toilet and has a significant drop which gets it well clear of the
toilet, preventing buildup or backups. A low flow toilet model that
works very well on my first floor, did not work well in my basement.
The only difference being the 8 or 10 foot vertical drop from the
first floor toilet down to the horizontal line in the basement floor.
In other words, I actually have low flow toilets in my house and they
work fine when used in conjuction with gravity (upstairs) to keep the
line near the toilet clear. I have actually installed the same model
in my basement, where it is mounted directly to the line in the floor,
and it didn't work well. I put the original toilet back and the new
one is sitting uninstalled elsewhere in the basement.
I'm not guessing. I have first hand experience.
I'm not against low flow toilets. I have them on 2 floors of my house
and they are completely trouble free. They just don't work as well in
the basement. I like them enough that I went out and bought one to
replace a perfectly good working OLD toilet in my basement. If it had
worked, I would have been pleased. It didn't.
I OWN 3 Toto toilets. They work great - on the first and second floor.
I tried one in my basement and it didn't perform as well as the old
toilet being replaced, so I took it out and put the old one back.
One very clear example where 3 identical toilets sharing one waste
line have different performance. The two toilets that work well are
almost directly above the one in the basement. There is very little
that is different except the one in the basement is mounted directly
to the wasteline in the slab, and lacks any vertical drop like the one
that the other two toilets take advantage of to work properly.
You are guessing. I am not guessing.
The basement is plumbed properly. Proof of that is that the original
toilet WHICH I PUT BACK AFTER THE LOW FLOW DIDN"T WORK WELL, works
perfectly and has never had a problem or backed up in the 20 years or
so I've been here.
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