Re: Michael Caputo

Sep 16, 2020 0 Replies
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>>On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 12:59:14 -0400, micky snipped-for-privacy@bigfoot.com wrote: >>
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>>>>......Mr. Caputo predicted that the president would win re-election in
>>>>November, but that his Democratic opponent, Joseph R. Biden Jr., would
>>>>refuse to concede, leading to violence. “And when Donald Trump refuses
>>>>to stand down at the inauguration, the shooting will begin,” he said.
>>>>“The drills that you’ve seen are nothing.”
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>>>A possible scenario according to Luntz and one other is that:
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>>>More Democrats will vote by mail.
>>>More Reps will vote in person.
>>>Mail ballots are counted before election day in a few states -- florida
>>>starts 20 days in advance iiuc -- but most don't start until election
>>>day, which means the day after (and maybe the day after that if everyone
>>>is tired.)
>>>So on election night, stumpie will be ahead, but as the mail in ballots
>>>are counted, Biden will pull ahead and trump will refuse to ackknowledge
>>>the final vote by which he loses. So the idea that armed police wi ll
>>>be needed to remove him from the WH is more likely than without the
>>>virus. I hope he isn't shot 20 times resisting removal
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>>> Luntz has been mostly a Republican over the years, but this notion does
>>>not depend on who is suggesting it. I think someone on NPR also
>>>suggested it, I didn't get his name.
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>>>Luntz says it doesn't matter what trump or Biden think (or do, I guess)
>>>but what the people think. I guess he meant the trouble-makers within
>>>them, who iiuc he's predicting will cause great trouble, including
>>>violence. He didn't mention courts. I guess he thinks the ballot
>>>results will be clear.
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>>I saw that exact scenario described yesterday in an opinion piece on
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>"He claimed millions voted illageally when he *won*. "
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>What would you do if you were a gereral in your state's national guard
>when trump tried to nationalize it?

As a career military member, I only remember disobeying a direct order one time. That's how firmly that's instilled in us.


In my case, doing as I was ordered would have destroyed an F-16 aircraft and kill the 8-12 people who were currently working on and around it. Even with those stakes, including repeated threats of court martial, loss of rank, and dishonorable discharge, it was hard to refuse. When all was said and done, I was fine, but the guy giving the orders didn't fare as well.


Even with that said, I think your hypothetical General would do what he or she is told. If you're betting, that's where you should place your money.

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