>>>>>>>>> watching you only to turn
>>>>>>>>> and see someone across the room (for example) was
>>>>>>>>> watching you?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Maggie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I believe there is a higher level in life. I've had
>>>>>>>> two near death
>>>>>>>> out-of-body experiences in my life. At the scene,
>>>>>>>> I was above
>>>>>>>> and watching it all take place and when it was over
>>>>>>>> I was back
>>>>>>>> to normal but alive. I've also had a sudden
>>>>>>>> unexplainable need
>>>>>>>> to contact a friend who it turned out was in
>>>>>>>> trouble and needed
>>>>>>>> help. Happy that I called and was able to help.
>>>>>>>> Another time my
>>>>>>>> car broke down and there I was on the side of the
>>>>>>>> road
>>>>>>>> wondering what to do now. I called 911 on my cell
>>>>>>>> for a wrecker.
>>>>>>>> A short time later my friend showed up and was able
>>>>>>>> to give me
>>>>>>>> a ride. He said he had a sudden urge to go for a
>>>>>>>> ride and then
>>>>>>>> he found my car broke down and was happy he did
>>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>> Veerrry strange! phil k.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> They are interesting anecdotes, but in no way are
>>>>>>> they evidence for a
>>>>>>> higher being.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've heard enough stories like that to make me wonder
>>>>>> if there is
>>>>>> something though. No, it is not evidence but you
>>>>>> still have to wonder
>>>>>> why they occur.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's the way the brain works when it is starved for
>>>>> oxygen. See Vasovagal Syncope.
>>>>>
>>>> Indeed.
>>>>
>>> Seeing a light in a tunnel when near death has been
>>> proven medically and has nothing to do with a higher
>>> being.
>>>
>>> Much of the near-death experience is caused by low blood
>>> flow to the brain and to the head. When this happens,
>>> the eye fails before the brain fails. The outside field
>>> of vision goes first, but the center is preserved until
>>> the very end, so you develop a tunnel-like sensation.
>>> This sensation is also common in people who are about to
>>> faint.
>>>
>> Here's an extract from the link below:
>>
>> In an article in the Atlantic last December, Sacks
>> explains that the reason hallucinations seem so real “is
>> that they deploy the very same systems in the brain that
>> actual perceptions do. When one hallucinates voices, the
>> auditory pathways are activated; when one hallucinates a
>> face, the fusiform face area, normally used to perceive
>> and identify faces in the environment, is stimulated.”
>> Sacks concludes that “the one most plausible hypothesis
>> in Dr. Alexander's case, then, is that his NDE occurred
>> not during his coma, but as he was surfacing from the
>> coma and his cortex was returning to full function. It is
>> curious that he does not allow this obvious and natural
>> explanation, but instead insists on a supernatural one.”
>>
>> The reason people turn to supernatural explanations is
>> that the mind abhors a vacuum of explanation. Because we
>> do not yet have a fully natural explanation for mind and
>> consciousness, people turn to supernatural explanations
>> to fill the void. But what is more likely: That
>> Alexander's NDE was a real trip to heaven and all these
>> other hallucinations are the product of neural activity
>> only? Or that all such experiences are mediated by the
>> brain but seem real to each experiencer? To me, this
>> evidence is proof of hallucination, not heaven.
>>
>>
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>> --
>> Bod
>
> This is the opinion of someone who has never experienced
> it. pdk
FYI Bod. Neither of my out-of-body experiences had anything to do with a medical condition or a medical facility. I was young and healthy and never lost consciousness. I will never forget them. No one can convince me that there's no such thing. End of subject. phil k.