Pulling a wire through a EMT pipe

It sounds like the guys you have are totally incompetent.

Why were they out there in the first place?

If they were messing with the wiring just because it was the wrong color then they were trying to stiff you in the first place.

I would have suggested just reidentifying the wires with colored tape to begin with. Pulling out old wires and putting them back in can be a PIA. If your change order says pull in new wires and they didn't do that I would think that some renogoitating is in order for the time that they actually did spend.

That conduit is a little on the small side for those wires. It should have been 3/4" EMT. No wonder they had trouble trying to pull the old conductors out. You might as well leave it as long is everything is working properly. I guess the conduit is serving as the equipment grounding conductor. Not the best way to go for a pool.

Totally agree with this view. Don't know for sure, but seems to me there are code issues here. Common sense says hire a competent journeyman and redo the the system with proper grounds and at least

Joe

For the amount of labor and materials to run emt that distance, it really was a shame not to use a conduit large enough for future expansion. I would have just remarked the conductors and used them, but as John Grabowski pointed out, the NEC requires a #12 insulated ground conductor run to a pool pump

NEC 680.21 only requires it to be minimum #12 and insulated, but not solid

And it has to be solid.

Terry wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

I'm no 'lectrician and I thought NEC made cash registers or something like that but I try to stay withing the rules especially when it comes to safety. In all the house wiring reading I've done, if a wire is used for other than it's normal coded color purpose you just mark the end with the proper color.

Maybe exterior apps or local codes previal.

The National Electric Code has specific requirements for conductor marking, as it does for damn near everything else. You can remark conductors larger than #6. You can remark a white conductor to a color, but grounded and grounding conductors smaller than #6 are generally not supposed to be remarked

You don't have to pay for work that isn't done, but then again, I don't know how that change order was worded. These were the guys that kept requesting new boxes of connectors when they hadn't finished a single box and kept scarfing your beverages. Rack up another one. Your next step is to find out if these guys are really licensed. Using a buddy's license doesn't cut it.

Thanks,

They did not put in the 1/2" conductor, the conductor was put in back in

Except for a few that ran below grade between the planter area and the pool, those were not even low votage, and the EMT pipe totally disintegrated, back then I guess the code was to use EMT?

We color coded the wires and moved forward with this. Now on to another challenge, there is always one after another.

MC

Well I started watching them closely, they were not taking my stuff, just exceedingly absent minded.

Last week, one of them left about a half reel of 12/2 MC cables in the attic, it was a reel of 250' long cable about half used.

But then again, I found tons of crap in my attic, I found about 65 brand new (but 35 years old) AC filters up there today.

MC