It all varies. We bought a cabin. One insurance company said the propane
tank cannot be within 50' of the structure. Others said nothing. It might
be a building department regulation. An insurance company requirement.
Check your local regs. It don't matter what they do in Kansas.
(hope you are not in Kansas ...............)
Depends on the tank size also. I have two large (100 pound?) cylinders
right next to my house but they are not allowed to be within 3' of a door or
window. Larger tanks must be away from the house, but I don't know the size
or the distance. and it may vary by location.
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 00:57:45 +0000, Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
Iirc, the 3' thing has to do with fueling the tank; same holds for the
outside fueling point for an oil tank in the basement. As for propane
tanks, some places there is a regulation that prohibits "hiding" it with a
fence, shrubs, etc.
Next door neighbor (previous owner) had propane stove and had the tanks
(tall slender type) right next to the house. Newer neighbors across the
street - propane company put their large tank about 40 feet from their
mobile home. My tank was there when I bought the place - large type - about
20 feet from the house.
Must vary by state - or possibly even within the state - by location. Check
with the pros - if you have anything other than the small tanks you bring in
yourself - they will probably have to install it anyway.
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There are plenty of national and regional propane trade organizations and
companies web sites that spell out a lot of information. Best to rely on a
pro rather than a bunch of newsgroup addicts on that. Your local dealer
will know the regs.
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 23:00:28 +0000 (UTC), Jonathan Grobe
Hey you need to heed EP's and other's advice and get the local pro's
to tell you. In addition to distance, some codes restrict orientation
that is the direction of the center axis. Something about if a head
were to blow off.
it's local codes. ask the guy who's going to install it. in my area, my 500
gal tank is about 30' from the garage wall buried about 6' down so that only
the cap is above ground.
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Orientation is probably the most critical - you can't place
it such that the ends of the tank are aimed at your house.
If it explodes, the ends shoot out so you want to make sure
they are pointing somewhere else...
We got lucky and avoided at least *THAT* particular problem when the
house burned down a couple years ago. Fire guys were *REAL* interested
in knowing where the (recently topped off in preparation for the
oncoming winter) 300+ gallon propane tank was when they first got here,
and once located, kept a hose on it for the duration. Stuff further from
the house than the tank was bursting into flames with no visible source
of ignition just because of the radiant heat from the fire - most of the
fire-crew effort went to keeping the surrounding vegetation and such
from catching - The house was already a total write-off 20 minutes or
more before they actually managed to arrive. (Absolutely no intent to
slam the FD for poor response time should be imagined - I have a very
firm grasp on the reality that it's a 30 minute drive from here to the
nearest fire station when I "leadfoot" it in my little semi-sports car -
"Only" 45 minutes from the call to 911 to seeing a "ready-for-action"
firetruck pull onto the property is doing *EXTREMELY* well indeed.)
The two portable propane tanks hooked up under the grill that was
sitting on the deck vented with a roar like a pissed off dragon, backed
with what I'd estimate to be a 30+ foot long tounge of flame, but
fortunately they didn't BLEVE, or I imagine we'd have lost the other two
vehicles and probably a couple of the horses along with everything else
that burned in the house.
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Yep. There's a vent on the top (round pipe looking thing a few inches
high) that is _supposed to_ open when the tank pressure is high. We had
a fire where that was venting, and near the fire, of course it was a
hella-big torch. That was fine, really, we didn't mind. Kept a hose on
the tank, so the surface stayed wet (below boiling point of water on the
outside = not too hot on the inside). We weren't nervous until the
venting stopped, because there's no way to know if it was just empty (it
was), or if the vent had melted shut or something. There was some
pucker-factor at that one.
Been there, done that. Don't like it. One of our house fires started
in an unattended house on a day with 40 MPH winds. Can you say
"blowtorch"? The only thing we could do, as you say, was protect the
Whic means 45 minutes by tanker, or more. Those things drive like,
well, like things that are really big, slow, and filled with water.
Long time when you're on the calling end of the phone, though.
Saved the horses? Fantastic. That was another fire recently, at a
horse barn. The kind of place where people board their horses, maybe 40
or 50 of 'em. Not a good ride to that fire, let me tell you. But, they
all got out. Barn was a total loss, and housing was a bit tight in the
county for a bit, but there ya go.
Many jurisdictions allow buired tanks. They have a special coating to
reduce corrosion and have anodes on the to corode first. Over 50% of
all new tank installations in the US are now buired. See the web
sites for tank manufacturers such as American Tank or Trinity.
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 15:24:41 -0700, "Charles Spitzer"
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 15:24:41 -0700, Charles Spitzer
Maybe, but direct soil contact will rust a tank a lot faster than just
being out in the atmosphere. And, braindead lawmakers being what they
are, probably can't differentiate between this fuel and other fuel
as others have said, they coat them. i buried mine, and was just wondering
why they didn't do this a lot more. i expect the empty tank costs more, but
i didn't compare prices when i ordered mine. it certainly was more expensive
for permits and time consuming to get the fire dept to come out to inspect
and map it for their records.
all you can see is the metal cap over the valves, which are below ground
level. i saved in that i didn't have to build a wall around it to hide it,
so the cost was pretty much a wash i'd expect.
Tanks designed for burial are coated with a very thick, probably half
inch, coating of asphalt. Such coated tanks do not rust. Burying
propane tanks has been around at least since I was a kid, for I recall
seeing them. I imagine they have this coating thing pretty well
figured out by now.
FWIW, they recently dug up some est 80 year old asphalted gas tanks
from an abandoned gas station across the street. The tanks were in
perfect condition and still contained some probably 30 year old
gasoline. No rust inside or out. It seemed such a shame to cut them
up and haul them away.
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