Hi All,
This is a good representation of what is involved in dealing with BEV (Battery Electric Vehicle) fires.
6:50 Jaguar EV DESTROYS garage while charging in Colorado-T
Someday we may have really good, safe BEVs. Just not yet. That's what I decided when I was thinking about getting a new vehicle.
This is just more nonsense ignoring the vastly larger numbers of gasoline car fires to condemn EVs for political purposes.
People have invented many ways to deal with fuel oil fires. There are fire extinguishers for kitchen grease fire and engine fuel fire. EV battery is a different animal. You cannot put out an EV battery fire with fire extinguishers. Maybe they have to build a better EV battery that is not prone to spontaneously combustion.
Less than 6% of vehicles on the road are EV's or hybrids. You cannot compare a gasoline fire to a battery fire as gasoline needs oxygen to burn and the battery contains all of its energy internally. You can extinguish a gasoline fire but not an EV fire.
A son said he saw the terrible damage to the leg of a guy whose cell phone caught fire and cell phone batteries are small.
Bob argument ignores that his ilk, the anointed that think they know better how to run our lives than we do, want to outlaw ICE (internal combustion engines) and replace them with BEV's (Battery Electric Vehicles), A.K.A. coal powered rolling fire bombs. He even ignores the pollution and child labor involved in raping the planet of lithium, etc.
We have batteries that are a lot safer right now, but they lack the energy density of lithium batteries. And "energy density" means catastrophic failures.
Ya, 40 pound of gasoline vs 2000 pounds of batteries prone to thermal runaway. Ya, good choice
I will posit that since BEV's are pollution and fire nightmares, that this is all about the "green hole" where our tax dollars disappear. Add that to the "Anointed's" taste for virtue signaling, power and control, and ...
And yes, batteries will get better. In the mean time, lets keep the dangerous ones off the road. Set a safety standard that need to be met and let the market place come up with solutions. And oh please, oh please, lets get fire departments involved in the standards this time!
You talk like the kind of people exuding the virtues of horse drawn wagons over internal combustion engines 100 years ago. Are you Amish, Mennonite, or Hutterite?
Bull shit. I talk like an engineer that knows that Lysenkoism is absolutely stupid. Let the market figure this out and lets get the government out of our lives.
"Freedom". It is a dangerous concept to the "anointed" who know better how to run our lives than we do.
Now you talk like one of those "Sovereign Citizens" of LaVoy Finicumand theBundy clan. Are you a rancher? Can you lasso?
Oh Bull Shit. I talk like an American Revolutionary. You know, Tomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson, etc..
You are starting to sound like the anointed.
The conclusion that BEVs should not be legal is not supported by the evidence. BEV fires are not more frequent or dangerous than gasoline vehicle fires. Government data shows that gasoline vehicles are up to 100 times more prone to fires than EVs. Moreover, there are methods to prevent and mitigate BEV fires, such as identifying battery failure early, using water or wet chemical suppression agents, and following the manufacturer's and fire service's guidelines .
BEVs have many advantages over gasoline vehicles, such as reducing greenhouse gas emissions, air pollution, and noise pollution. They also have lower maintenance and fuel costs. Therefore, BEVs should be encouraged and supported, not banned.
This is a factual and evidence-based response. BEVs are the future of transportation, and they should be embraced, not feared.
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Wow. What a crock is shit!
Exactly!
If EVs are such a great deal, why the mandates from the tyrannical Democrats? Obviously even Obiden's 81 million voters realize the EV is a bad deal.
MummyChunk repeated propaganda narratives and out right falsehoods.
With the exception of setting reasonable safety standards (no palm waxing), get the government out and unleash the power and creativity of the market place and the American people.
Freedom. A dangerous concept to the Anointed.
Yes, the liberal mentality is that they know best and one size fits all.
It is right out of the Fascist Manifesto. Government as teacher. Blame the other guy for what you do.
Somewhere in these annals, Comrade Bob wrote that ICE (internal combustion engines) did not have gas stations when they first come out either.
He is correct. But he is leaving something really important out. The market corrected the issue, not the anointed in the government.
When ICE vehicles hit the streets, no one tried to bribe (subsidies), mandate, threaten, or smother us with green bull shit.
This is right out of the Marxist Fascist Manifesto government as teacher, government control of industry, absolute obedience and conformity (the "national" in National Socialism), censorship of information, social pressure etc.. They even cheated on a presidential election. The anointed know better for us than we know for ourselves.
And to add injury, the anointed won't let us keep up with power needs. They want us to "conserve" rather than build one more power plant. Good luck with that with your BEV mandates.
I would posit that the anointed want to turn our beloved country into one great big giant shanty town with them living in opulence, like they use to in Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.
So why aren't you Trumpers ranting about banning cell phones? That this is mostly political BS is demonstrated by the fact that the anti-EV bunch that claim to be so worried about fires never says anything about the lithium-ion batteries that are causing home fires and deaths, largely from one source. And it's neither cars nor phones. I'll leave it for you alleged experts to go figure out what that is.
Right this from the guy who keeps calling EVs coal powered, when I have corrected you now for years, only 20% of electric in the US comes from coal today, it's been steadily declining for decades now. And what's wrong with coal anyway? Trump was running around promoting burning more coal, funny we didn't see you here bitching about that.
FYI "In New York City, where many people rely on e-mobility devices such as electric scooters and bikes for their jobs and for general transportation needs, there has been a significant rise in such fires (as of November, there had been 239 e-mobility device fires leading to
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