Damned if I'd pay does to an organization with this guy in charge but many do
I like GOA better
No doubt some of the members are- just like in most organizations- but who will do the best job protecting your right to keep and bear...?
I agree. While not a perfect group they do have an extremely large membership and the most clout.
I doubt Ed would be an NRA member no matter what was said.
IMHO if the Democrat party was not so anti-gun, the NRA would tend to have a liberal bent which I have seen set in with other large, older organizations.
Personally, I belong to the NRA but pay no dues as a life member. Must have been 40 years and one of the best deals I ever made. I encourage others in the NRA to do it.
I was an NRA member for year, left over two decades ago, when they went too extremist for me. Took a couple more decades and Trump to do the same with the Republican Party. The GOP it's not so much extremism as it is just being nuts with Covid and science deniers with global warming.
What is more extreme than people who want to ban guns altogether and that is a significant number of people in the DNC. They have publicly stated the plan is to keep chipping away at the 2d amendment until they are all gone. They use terms like "sensible gun control" but that is just to rope in people like Ed and Trader. That is not what people like Bloomberg really want.
No, I'm actually pro 2nd Amendment and don't want to take legal guns away. I do want gun owners to have some training. Most are responsible but many are not.
Only thing I see the NRA doing is obstructing the slightest change or regulation. I don't see them trying to fix Chicago. Maybe you can tell me how they are helping to eliminate shootings there.
?Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.? -- Eric Hoffer
You are never going to "fix" Chicago with more laws. They simply need to enforce the ones we have. The NRA points that out all the time and cites all the laws that went unenforced to get to that murderous state. If you actually watched how they cut the crime and murder rate in New York, it wasn't by passing new laws, Giuliani just started enforcing the laws that were on the books and made a serious effort to stop people from carrying illegal guns.
This country just needs to get tough with the criminals. Such as when someone commits a crime with a gun and is found guilty, hang them by the end of the week. None of that stuff about fooling around for years . For example many crimes are on vidio or have many witnesses. Don't give any options but hanging by the end of the week. Same with the dopers. Anyone with more than a trace of illegal drugs, hang them.
This country will never do that for many reasons, bu the biggest is money. We employ thousands by fooling around with the criminals. Takes weeks to try some cases. They should be over in a a week, two weeks at the most. Courts, judges, lots of jails and guards, hard telling how many others are supported by the long draw out system. The lawyers get millions out of the trials.
The NRA cannot fix those that want to de-fund the police, that want police citizen review boards or prosecutors that will not prosecute.
Recently in Philadelphia the police have been told not to stop anyone for minor traffic violations as they mostly offend the minority community.
In New York with no cash bail the woman that pushed another women in front of a subway train almost killing her is back on the street and in the subways. Crime in the subways is up 80%.
Ya' think all the shootings have anuything to do with the frightening percentage of out-of-wedlock child births, absent fathers, endless cycle of welfare, lack of accountability for one's decisions and actions, lack of discipline, permissiveness, a victimology mind set, excuse making, etc., etc.
Isn't it in California where one city does not even go after a crime of less than $ 1000 ? Many stores are closing because of this.
Sounds like you'd be much happier in one of the predominantly Muslim countries. You might not like their gun laws but you'd get everything else you're looking for. Obviously, 200+ years of Constitution-based rule of law isn't to your liking.
Saudi Arabia comes to mind. On Fridays they held their public sentencings, including whacking off the right hand of a person accused of theft and beheading the more serious criminals. Beheading isn't as messy as it sounds since they draw much of the blood immediately before the public part of the proceedings.
No I don't think they should be shot. However maybe hang the ones that go over 100 mph and kill someone. I bet the foot ball player only gets a few years for killing some one while going over 100 mph if that much.
There are minor violations and major ones.
The quick hanging seemed to work very well for the first 100 years. It is the snowflake generation and Twinkey defense that has ruined the country.
I believe it may have started when the cops did not read the criminal of his rights.
Ii agree with that. There are a lot of simple tools. Increase parole visits. You catch the guy with drugs or weapons, straight back to prison. Adopt stop, question, frisk, like Giuliani so successfully used. The NRA really isn't in a position to do anything in Chicago directly. The one that had the best moral authority to speak out and demand changes was Obama and he stayed silent. The BLM bunch, they would have the voice, but they don't speak out when it's black on black death, only when some guy, usually a bad guy, winds up shot by a white cop.
The NRA does have some responsibility indirectly though. Their opposition to changes to any gun control changes allow straw buyers to buy guns in lax states and funnel them to other states and cities.
Right, let's make the US more like Iran or North Korea. No need for finding out the facts, mounting a defense, having a fair trial. We should start with Kyle Rittenhouse. He was arrested, there is video of him shooting and killing a guy, he was arrested, charged by the stats. He should have been hung a year ago.
Thank the Constitution and reasonable judgment for that.
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We could eliminate all that, then we'd be like North Korea. How much of that money do you think it comes down to per citizen of the US? My guess is that it's not all that much, probably the cost of a good dinner.
And that part is only getting worse. The black leaders are just about all telling their people that it's all the white guy's fault, racism, nothing is there own responsibility. That despite all the trillions in aid that we've handed out since the 60s to try to help, all the affirmative action programs, etc.
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