Mayor Bloomberg of New York, after banning salt, large soft drinks, and
kittens, has now proposed banning Styrofoam take-out containers.
All Chinese restaurants in the city will most assuredly close.
Since Styrofoam MAY be hazardous to our health, it is something that must go
the way of lead paint. (I'm not kidding. He actually made that analogy.)
> Mayor Bloomberg of New York, after banning salt, large soft drinks, and
> kittens, has now proposed banning Styrofoam take-out containers.
> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/14/new-york-city-mayor-bloomb ...
> All Chinese restaurants in the city will most assuredly close.
> Since Styrofoam MAY be hazardous to our health, it is something that must
> the way of lead paint. (I'm not kidding. He actually made that analogy.)
It's been a long time since I lived in NYC, but the Chinese
restaurants where I live use paper containers for rice and plastic for
the meals. However, a lot of non-Chinese restaurants still use
When you think about, it's not such a bad idea for reasons other than
health. We use the plastic containers from Chinese takeout to store
leftovers from the meals we cook at home. We keep them around until
they eventually crack. I also use them around the shop for small
parts, etc. Any styrofoam we get ends up in the garbage and then the
landfill. At least the plastic containers get used for a period of
time, after which they are put into the recycling bin. We can't
recycle styrofoam food containers.
There's bound to be some environmental upside to eliminating styrofoam
and going to paper and plastic since plastic is reusable and both
paper and plastic are recyclable.
>There's bound to be some environmental upside to eliminating styrofoam
>and going to paper and plastic since plastic is reusable and both
>paper and plastic are recyclable.
And I am guessing that there is some science on the advisability of
using styrofoam.... not that I care that much... but Bloomberg is no
dummy and I'll bet he is basing his ideas on something pretty solid.
On Feb 14, 11:53 am, email@example.com wrote:
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For our weekly collection, we put clear/green/brown glass bottles,
plastics # 1 - 7, metal cans and lids in one recycling bin container
and just about any type of paper, cardboard, magazines, etc. in
There is also a drop off location where you can drop off anything from
appliances to mercury to sneakers to wire coat hangers.
For hazardous waste (gas, chemicals, etc.) you have to make an
appointment. I've had to schedule appointments over a month in advance
and then wait in line for over an hour just to drop off a couple of
gallons of nasty stuff. I wish it was easier. Based on the schedule
and the lines, I know that a lot of people follow the rules, but I'll
bet that a large number of people don't for the very same reasons.
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:21:33 -0800 (PST), DerbyDad03
We have single stream recycling, one big barrel that the truck picks
They manually pluck out the aluminum and glass, the steel is
magnetically separated and they burn the rest.
Anything made of metal will disappear within a day if you set it on
the curb (appliances etc) they have a special pickup for things the
scrappers won't take (TVs and such)
Just curious...how much trash are they manually sorting? In other words, do
you live In a rural area where the amount of weekly trash is "manageable"
from a sorting perspective? I can't imagine manually sorting the trash in
NYC or SF.
You can blame the unions and trade organizations for that here. They
don't want the competition. When I was an inspector I did a lot of
work in the Florida prison system. They had guys doing electrical work
(usually electricians in on drug busts) but they could not even do
work for the other state agencies, only within the prison system
itself. That resulted in guys like park rangers thinking they were
Prisoners are limited to doing unskilled labor like picking up trash
and clearing brush outside the wire.
On Feb 15, 5:55 pm, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
There's a standing joke over here that if you're a poor pensioner
that's really hard up and ill, the best thing is to commit a crime.
In jail, the state will look after you far better.
When you get out of jail, commit another crime to get back in ASAP.
I hear you have 1% of the population in jail.
Must be like the Ritz in your jails.
I can understand that they have jurisdiction over the employees, the
prisoners, not so much.
That was my contract rate, whether I was inspecting, driving or just
cooling my heels waiting for someone to open the gate. Coffee was a
treat ... to keep me from going home and starting the clock over again
when they called back. Once is usually enough to get a speedier
response next time.
Bullshit. You have not spent much time in prisons. I was a state
inspector for 8 years and more than half of my inspections were in
prisons. SOME inmates learn something useful. Most just learn how to
be better criminals. It is fairly clean and sanitary but there is
plenty of trouble. I saw a guy get killed once. Nobody even seemed
that surprised. They just hustled me out a sally port before the place
was locked down so they would not be paying me $60 an hour to drink
coffee in the blockhouse.
I was in inspector for the Florida Department of Management Services,
the agency that handled ALL of the state building project permits and
in the years 1996-2002, most were in the prison system. I inspected
projects at Charlotte, Hendry, Desoto and Glades. Charlotte was the
worst for violence from what I saw.
The prison farm system grows ALL the food the prisoners eat with a very few
exceptions (pepper, coffee, tea, etc.). They also grow their own cotton,
gin, and mill it to make all manner of cloth stuff.
As to the prisoner's other endeavors, I recommend you visit the Texas
Correctional Industries web site. The stuff they make is utterly
unbelievable in its variety.
* Jail clothes
* Engraved mugs
* Auditorium seating
* Bus renovation
* Ornamental fencing
Just under the classification "Janitorial"
* Bar soaps
* Liquid hand soaps
* Seven kinds of liquid detergents
* Four kinds of powder detergents
* Three kinds of floor wax and sealers
* Graphics (signs, printing, cardboard boxes, etc.)
* Janitorial products (see above)
* Garmet / Textile (apparel, bedding, leather (including saddles))
* Modular office systems
* Metal working (truck beds, trailers, toilets, security, shelving, etc.)
* Misc (tire retreading, computer recovery, etc.)
Link - with pictures of their products and everything.
The Texas budget for prisons is about $3.3 billion and covers 155,000
inmates. This works out to about $21,000 per year or $58 per day for each
Sources say it costs about $47,000 per year or $128/day to do the same job
Now if Texas offered to house California inmates at, say, $93/day, both
states would come out ahead! Don't know why they don't do it.
It is ironic, in its own peculiar way, to drive past one of these prison
cotton farms in the late afternoon. You'll see a couple of guards, on
horseback, carrying shotguns. They're watching over lines of black inmates,
hoes on their shoulders, marching back to the lock-up for dinner.
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