Only if the person who saddled the horse doesn't know what he's doing. You wait to cinch it
snug (*not* tight) until the horse exhales. Then, it gets a bit tight when he inhales, and fits
properly when he exhales. Obstreperous horses will deliberately inhale deeply and hold it,
waiting to exhale until after the rider cinches the girth strap. Savvy riders who observe this
happening will then knee the horse in the abdomen and cinch the strap when the horse
exhales. After three or four such experiences, the horse learns not to do that -- at least not
when saddled by that particular rider.
It is necessary, for the safety of the rider, to tighten the girth strap enough that the saddle
stays in place when the rider mounts. It is also necessary for the comfort of the horse to
make it no tighter. Riding is a partnership, not a master-slave relationship.
Then again, there are those who are just stubborn (or just mean) that
live for the opportunity and do it every morning of their lives
irregardless of the knee...and look for the opportunity to nip the
saddler just for good measure... :)
We had one of them years ago when young...good cow horse once thru the
shenanigans of the morning ritual, but was that way forever. He also
would run you into the corner of the barn or a gate post if you weren't
aware just for the pleasure of trying to scrape you off...but would
_never_ let a cow cut back out of the herd--just give him his head and
hang on and he'd make sure wouldn't lose her. Or, point out the one you
wanted cut out of the herd and it was done. Just don't turn your back
or get lazy/unattentive when _not_ working or you'd be regretting it... :)
Yes, I had just watched the race. What interested me is that clearly
the horses know the goal is come in first, and they've accepted that as
their goal (at least the horses that do well.)
And the stories all of you tell about the horses knowing what is going
on and doing things they way they want to are ivery interesting.
Indeed, race horses in particular are bred to run (obviously :) ) and
they like people are competitive by their very nature with varying
levels of just how much so they really are. Even nags or cow ponies
occasionally will race each other just for the fun of it in a pasture,
particularly as young 'uns "just playing".
The amount of 'adjustments' made in these races has truly taken the fun
out of watching. The first run at Cubai did not have much influences, so
was an incredible treat to watch, but the next year, and after...
To envision what the cinch is like, wrap a belt around your chest up right
under your arm pits. that's kind of where the cinch rides on a horse. Note
you can still breathe a bit. I still think a metal bit in the mouth is
absolutely cruel, but then I've only been on 'good' horses. Only one horse
I can remember liked to try to 'rub' your leg off on fence posts. But, we
had a heart to heart so he stopped doing that.
micky posted for all of us...
And I know how to SNIP
I have to add my own horse story even though I have never ridden one...
One day I noticed the usually corralled horses at a farm I pass on the way
to work were in the driveway instead of the corral. I tried the dwelling but
no answer to knocking. I know nothing about horses so I call on the radio
and a PA State Police (PSP) trooper I didn't know eventually arrives. He
knew something. He goes and find their harness' and we lead them back. We
secure the open gate and proceed to clean our boots. I realized how majestic
they were. I can see why people have horses. I love all of Gods creatures
but learned something that day. Around here is cow country and I know about
them and can appreciate them. I've been in more than one rodeo around here
with them. If they are on the road they do not know what red lights and
sirens mean. They stare. You gotta push them off the road and stay away from
the rear hoofs and leave the bulls to the owner - they can be mean and
I always wondered about this saddle question. I am still teachable (maybe)
That's overly broad; it isn't a foregone conclusion that the open range
law will indemnify the cattle owner. The law states basically that in
any suit for "damages which are caused by collision between any motor
vehicle and any domestic animal on a highway, there is no presumption or
inference that the collision was due to negligence on behalf of the
owner or the person in possession of the animal."
That is, the plaintiff must demonstrate some other basis for negligence
on the rancher's part than simply not fencing along the roadway. There
have been cases in which courts have ruled for a plaintiff. At least
one I recall the additional conditions were of a water supply on one
side of the road with the grazing area on the other and no attempt in an
obvious case of there being consistent need for the animals to thus
cross the road repeatedly for any controls in place to minimize the
amount of time spent by animals on and/or crossing the road.
This isn't open range at the house, but it's not far to areas in E CO
and NM and also have ground in NM that are so am at least somewhat
familiar w/ the rules thereof...
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