OT Gas pump skimmers

[makolber]

so all this is more convenient to you compared to carrying a few pieces of green paper?

I try to use cash for everyday purchases.

I guess that we we have choices....

take care...

m

[DerbyDad03]

All what? My daughter's ID theft? If so, it was totally unrelated to any credit and/or debit card. Using cash would not have prevented the ID theft. If she had never had a debit or credit card in her life it would not have prevented the ID theft.

[Tekkie®]

Uncle Monster posted for all of us...

Target stores to change out the card readers but the store managers were n otified by the corporate office people they spoke to everyday. There were e ven custom made fasteners with a custom 1/4" drive security bit made just f or hardware in their stores. The manager kept the driver bit in the store s afe.

t will be able to tell you,"Do as you're told or we'll turn off your money. " If a government can control your money, it controls you. Look for the use of cash and barter to be made serious crimes. This nonsense about governme nt provided health care meaning everyone will be taken care of is the same kind of MBD, Male Bovine Droppings. "Do as you're told or we turn off your healthcare." The Commiecrat elite will never get their medical care in the same facility as the peasants. I'm no conspiracy nut but I've seen the patt ern forming and the manipulation of the citizenry going on for decades. It' s media manipulation and it's aimed at different groups over long periods o f time to change public opinion and behavior of society. Count the number o f ads for credit cards you see every day. Pay attention to the actors in th e ads to see what the makeup of the couples and families being portrayed appe ar to be. _?_?_/¯

Yeah, but Billy Devane is selling gold!

[DerbyDad03]

I'll ask the same question to you that I asked of Neil and Danny.

(I wonder why they won't answer me...)

Will they do this even if they are not in any way connected to the "theft"?

Let's call the bank "My_S&L"

In other words, someone opens a cell phone account in your name. This has nothing to do with My_S&L. No My_S&L bank accounts have been accessed, no My_S&L credit credit card was used to pay the bill, etc. No connection to My_S&L at all.

Will they still clean it up for you?

(I'll save my other questions until I see the answer to that one.)

[Taxed and Spent]

Here are a couple examples where it seems the answer is yes:

[Mayayana]

wrote

| so all this is more convenient to you compared to carrying a few pieces of green paper? | | I try to use cash for everyday purchases. | | I guess that we we have choices.... |

The trouble is that the choices of people who've fallen for the debit card scam are costing the rest of us. I was in the supermarket today, waiting to pay, and the clerk was busy. She finally turned around and said, "Oh! I thought you were all set. We hardly ever get cash." She was waiting for my debit card process to show up on her screen, not even looking to see if I was using a debit card.

Last I heard, I think the debit card fee was 65 cents per transaction. I'm not sure if that's true. It'd be interesting to know the exact amount. In any case, people are typically buying smaller purchases with them. That's a lot of wasted money. A multi-billion dollar industry that survives by convincing people that the common medium of transaction, cash, needs to be wrapped in a second medium of transaction in order to work properly. Maybe I'll start a "card for all your cards" business. There's probably a bundle to be made. :)

[Sam Hill]

Maybe they are among the multitudes of Usenetters who filter out GoogleGroups...

[Ed Pawlowski]

I don't see it as wasted. Notice the big building the bank headquarters is in? We have to pay for that. How can they give the management big bonuses and bigger salaries if we don't do our part?

They are showing their gratitude by giving us 0.01% interest too. They even let you use their pens.

[Frank]

Mentioned elsewhere that wife often returns from the bank with coffee and popcorn. Did not mention that she also gets their ballpoint pens.

[Greg]

Ours is free if you have been a member >10 years, direct deposit by employer and maintain an average minimum checking/savings balance of $10k.

[DerbyDad03]

AFAIKT they both responded directly to *my* post about my daughter's incident with Comcast.

[DerbyDad03]

The list of the services provided seems promising. I wonder how it plays out in real life. I'm not doubting their effectiveness, just curious.

They both mention assisting with documentation, access to credit reports, assistance with setting up fraud alerts (neither mentions assisting with

*credit freezes*. I wonder why not?) etc. Assistance with those items could be very helpful mainly because they would (presumably) be familiar with the forms, the process, etc. The research and documentation, the contacts with the various agencies (SSA, USPS, etc.) would all certainly be helpful.

That said, here are my main questions:

If, as in the case of my daughter's situation, Comcast (just as an example) is extremely reluctant to share the information about the fraudulent account with the (alleged) victim of the fraud, why would they be willing to share it with a third party, such as one of those credit unions? Does the credit union have any means to compel Comcast to release the information? Would Comcast be more willing to share what they consider confidential information about one of their "customers" with a Personal Recovery Advocate from a credit union than they would be to share it directly with the person who hired the advocate?

If they can streamline that part of the process, it might be worth the fee.

Assisting with filling out the forms that my daughter received is a nice gesture, but they (just like my daughter) would need to have the information required in order to fill them out. I wonder how many cable companies, phone companies, utilities, etc. would be willing to provide that information to the Advocate.

[anonymous]

Yes though they won't share that information with you.

[DerbyDad03]

Then I can't put it on the required documents, such as the police report or the affidavit of theft.

If they put it on the forms for me as part of their "assistance", I wouldn't sign them without reviewing them first.

[Tekkie®]

Oren posted for all of us...

ObamaHackCare?

[Diesel]

No. The company (comcast) shouldn't be willing to share anything about the account. They don't actually know for sure that what your daughter told them is true, ya see. They don't know your daughter or the suspect account holder on a personal level.

As if your daughter (i'm not saying she is) was lying about this and comcast disclosed that account holders information to her based on what she said alone, they would have compromised the account holders information and opened themselves to a tasty lawsuit in the process.

She needs to hire a lawyer and proceed via legal channels.

None that I know of for the aforementioned reasons stated.

[Diesel]

No, lol, they won't either. Comcast is not going to risk intentionally compromising an account holders personal details to anyone outside of LE as it places them at risk of a winnable (against them) lawsuit for good sums if what was stated by the individual(s) 'affected' turned out not being true.

[Diesel]

Hmm. Something sounds a bit off here. Please describe how you believe the ID theft occured. If you have already, I apologize for asking you to repeat yourself. I didn't see the post.

[DerbyDad03]

My questions were more or less rhetorical and mainly asked of those who claimed that their bank/credit union would take care of everything for them. I seriously doubt it, but none of them have responded. If the only thing that $600 gets you is assistance with filling out forms, setting up fraud alerts and other fairly simple things, I'll pass. My daughter and I got that all done ourselves - including managing to get enough information to give to Comcast to be able to prove that it wasn't her account.

I'm still curious why neither of the service providers that T&S linked us to mentioned helping with setting up Credit Freezes, not just Fraud Alerts,

[DerbyDad03]

Why do you think something sounds "off"?

Do you think that credit/debit card fraud is the only type of ID theft that exists?