Used to be, I could log onto yellow pages (dot com),
Switchboard, lookup, Standeyo, or gosh knows how
Type in name and town, and I'd have a bunch of ad and
phone. Now days, about five clicks later we get to
the sign up screen (one look up for eight bucks, month
for twenty bucks and.....) and they want money.
Any free sites these days? Google is paid site, now,
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
411.com and whitepages.com seem to work OK.
Switchboard worked for me.... sort of. First it didn't
find a name or a business I was looking for. Then
when I tried it again it said I needed to solve a
captcha. But the same searches worked on the other
two sites. (Which is odd. I think whitepages.com and
switchboard.com are the same company.)
My results may vary because I don't enable script,
cookies, 3rd-party ads, or iframes. I just see a very
plain page, with the returns on a similarly plain page.
I think it's gotten more difficult in general, though.
Most cellphones are not listed. A lot of people with
landlines now pay not to be listed in order to stop
I tried 411, which would not give me the phone
number, kept jumping to another page, which was
paid site. Did you actually try these before
sending them to the list?
IIRC white and switch are the same company, and they
both are paid sites.
Did you actually read my request, or are you just
sending me the paid sites I already tried?
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
Don't seem to have this problem.
Usually I just put persons name + phone into google to find it.
Also use Zabasearch to get address and phone:
I see 6 Christopher A. Young's in NY and all phones listed.
I use http://wp.superpages.com/
I just went to 411.com and did a reverse lookup on my home phone. I got it
no problem. Nothing asked me to pay. Now I do have lots of blocking addons.
Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).
| IIRC white and switch are the same company, and they
| both are paid sites.
| Did you actually read my request, or are you just
| sending me the paid sites I already tried?
Why would you think that? I just described my
results. Two out of three responders are telling you
that we don't get asked to pay. Before you just
assume we're idiots wouldn't it make sense to look
I don't see ads and I don't
see anything asking for money. I'm guessing, assuming
that you don't have some sort of malware trying to
scam you, that the difference is probably related to
cookies and/or script. (For instance, you may be allowing
a permanent cookie that's identifying you as a multiple
repeat visitor. That's how the NYT works. If you allow
session cookies at the NYT you can read as much as you
like. The cookie is deleted when you close your browser,
which restarts the count of allowed articles. If you allow
no cookies you can't read anything. If you allow permanent
cookies you can only read something like 20 articles per
You might experiment with disabling script and cookies,
perhaps in a secondary browser. If you normally enable
them you should also know that you're allowing extensive
spying and accepting a great deal of risk. Nearly all online
attacks require script. (Even the common attacks using
Flash or Java usually also require script.) I normally use
Firefox with medium restrictions and the NoScript extension
when I *really* have to enable script and interaction. For
other sites I use Pale Moon, disabling all of it and blocking
3rd-party files. I don't have Flash or Java installed in the
first place. Most sites work fine that way.
A quick look at switchboard.com shows ads from
Amazon, OpenX, Yieldmanager and Google, tracking
from Google, Scorecardresearch and Quantcast, as
well as at least one cookie being set. And that's
just the first level of sleaze. It's hard to know how
many other players are getting in on the action.
Just using a decent HOSTS file would save you from
all of that junk. ....On the other hand, aren't you
the guy who likes to celebrate capitalism, which you
define as an Edenic state of affairs where companies
all provide wonderful products at the lowest possible
price. In that case, wouldn't you really prefer to pay
up rather than act like a scummy socialist? :)
I looked up someone with only a first initial and last name in
Swtichboard. One listing had name (just first intial), no address, no
age, no previous addrress, no known asscociations, but it did have his
phone number, for free.
I thought 411 and switchboard were the same company! 411 tightened up
on what they gave for free a month or three before swtichboard did.
Cellphones never were, were they?
They said a few years ago that someone was going to make a cell phone
directory, but I don't think it happened. I'll bet too few people
agreed to cooperate.
No need to pay. 31 years ago when I moved here, I let myself be listed
but for an address I put in the suburb with a name that is 3 or 4 blocks
from me, so people would know what general area I lived in. I must
have been the first peson to do something like this, because when I got
my first bill, the window envelope was addressed to me and that suburb
name, no street address, and it had been returned to them, and they had
had to put in an plain white hand-addressed envelope.
i use that bur ftr, twice in the past 2 weeks, I've found three people
on zabasearch who weren't on switchboard, and three people on
switchboard who weren't on zabasearch.
That neither had as much as the other surprised me.
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