OT: Electric cars actually burn fossil fuels

Jun 19, 2022 Last reply: 3 years ago 197 Replies

Is flag and cross the new name for the KKK? Another fine example of how you'll eagerly accept any BS that supports your preconceived biased notions. It actually shows desperation. The best you can come up with is that electric car dealers are having a hard time finding qualified mechanics? There are labor situations like this across America in most industries. McDonald's can't find enough burger flippers, airlines can't find enough pilots. So that means McDonalds and the airlines are bad ideas and failing too, right? I would bet that gas powered vehicle dealers are having difficulty finding enough employees right now.

In the USA maybe. In the UK right at this very minute (Friday mid afternoon) it's:

52% gas 18% nuclear 12% wind 11% solar
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I thought you were one of those people.

I thought you were a lib? You used to moan about Trump all the time.

I know in many areas there are plenty of help wanted signs up. Does this hold true in all cities ? If so why is there any unemployment at all ? I image there are shortages of skiled labor,but plenty of jobs for those that want to work. Other than the electronics there should not be many problems that any mechanic could not repair. Most of the electonics should be just replace a module or 'black box'.

You would think.

Tesla has been described as a rolling computer.

Out here mechanics are scarcer than hens teeth.

They built houses near me on marshland! I did laugh when I drove along there and they were re-building a whole street.

He is an extremist leftist. It is a common technique for Leftists to call themselves conservatives or moderates to try and make their extremism sound mainstream. It is totally disingenuous. Ed does the same thing.

Joel, on the other hand, makes no bones about what he is and I can respect that. BobF just name calls.

I read wind power is only 5p a unit, while we're paying 25p a unit in the UK. So I guess wind is actually cheap.

My neighbour had that in the UK, a very large hot water cylinder which heated electrically on demand by radio signal. It had a lot of heating elements, about 6 instead of the usual 1. This was for his hot water and central heating.

No, Trader4 has never been that.

He quite seriously believes that Reagan is the greatest president that the USA has ever had and that Reagan personally ended the Cold War.

We aren't discussing what he calls himself.

No, he doesn't call himself a conservative at all.

Biden's beach house:

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Lot of houses like this where you will notice house is essentially on stilts in case ground level parking gets flooded.

Some "houses" near the coast were originally holiday chalets perched on sand dunes. Hired out in the summer to holidaymakers. The owners would remove appliances and board them up at the end of the season, and see whether they were still there the next year.

Then people would buy them to live in, become worth £100,000s and be surprised when they disappeared into the sea.

That reminds me of the (nudist) beach in the south of France where caravans get left there to use at weekends. I went there during a galeforce wind and found everyone's caravan upside down. Another time the tide had come in unusually high and everyone with a 4x4 was trying to tow them all off the beach.

Just how strong are those stilts?

And what is it with Americans and white picket fences?

Friend in North Carolina drove me out to see one of these houses on washed out sand dune and it about to tip over to the ocean side. It was a huge house and he said they were now banning them from building there.

Friend had a bay side cottage on stilts but bought another lot further from the water that would not need stilts. Still a hurricane a while back had water lapping to his door front.

Couldn't they just move the house?

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Are you exaggerating or are you saying they can blow up if someone makes a minor mistake?

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The rivers here are shallow so during flood season there's a lot of volume and a swift current that redesigns them. Most people don't build too close to the banks. They built a paved handicapped accessible trail at a wildlife refuge down the road. The river carved out a big chunk one tear. They were smart enough to build the picnic shelter a lot further back

They don't blow up.

But you can damage components in the reactor, by inattention.

Some reactors are very safe (by design), others, not so much.

If you dump the moderator in ours, the reaction stops. The moderator is necessary to slow the neutrons, to react with the materials in the reactor. When the moderator is dumped, the neutrons in the core are fast neutrons, which do not capture well in the other fuel rods.

Reactor control elements are different types. Some are reflectors. Some are absorbers (nothing comes out the other side). Some are moderators.

One thing you don't want, is for a runaway behavior when say, the reactor gets "hot" and stuff boils more than expected.

We had one reactor here, it wasn't a power reactor. It was a reactor used to make isotopes (Technetium99 and so on). On paper, the design looked great. They built it. And determined that the design had a positive void coefficient (during some test). It was shut down immediately and taken apart. End of project. You would think they could fix that, but apparently not.

There are reactors operating, where that problem is present, only when a control rod is raised to a certain height. A little higher or a little lower, the problem goes away. And that design continues to operate and provide power to people. Now, imagine the control rod jams, at exactly the wrong position.

The materials in reactors "swell" from irradiation damage, which is why stuff jams. That was more of a problem with the first reactors. And that's part of the nature of being a reactor operator, is monitoring for unexpected stuff, which hints at some sort of slow degradation. Which is why half of Frances nukes are offline at the moment. Safety first.

Paul

I'd be chasing that to find where it ended up to see if anything could be salvaged.

Somebody lost a lot of money that day.

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I wondered why we (the UK) were selling power to them. How did they all fail at once?

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