Bad choice of words on my part.
I call the local beer retailer a "Beer Distributor"... Mea Culpa.
What I really meant was comparing the guy who sells nothing but beer
with various other retailers like grocery stores and the like.
On Saturday, March 5, 2016 at 9:49:48 AM UTC-5, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
In that case, can't help you out. In NJ I don't know of any places
that sell just beer. And grocery stores don't sell beer either. It's
mostly in liquor stores that sell beer, wine and liquor. I guess there
might be some places that are exclusively wine, but IDK of any that
are just beer or beer/wine.
Right. State laws vary. Here in DE only liquor stores sell any
alcoholic beverage. In nearby PA, there are beer stores and you can buy
a 6 pack in a bar but only state stores sell wine and spirits.
In Ohio wine and beer can be sold in all stores but state stores control
spirits. In CA you can buy all anywhere.
DE gets a lot of out of state traffic because we have no sales tax.
Every now and then PA sends revenuers into DE and MD to track down tax
That's how it currently is in CO. Nothing but 3.2 beer in grocery stores and no
food sold in liquor stores. IOW, no fruit pie with yer can o' Bud. Savages!
Alcohol is a state thing. How a state dispenses its hooch is up to that
particular state. I've seen some screwy laws on that subject. The
one thing all states seem to have down cold is how much to fine DUI
offenders. How efficient of them. ;)
CT allowed beer (no silly "near beer") in grocery stores (I'll guess wine
was also available -- never got into wine). Beer, wine and "spirits"
sold at package stores.
Never saw anything that prevented foods from being sold (if you count
things like "chips" as food).
Of course, they'd pull a giant "window shade" down over the beer
display at 8PM -- though you were free to continue shopping for
your other groceries!
Here (AZ), I see beer, wine and liquor for sale in grocery stores.
Of course, they tend to favor beer and wine -- with only token
liquors being addressed (not the same sort of selection you'd encounter
in a packy). There are some large alcohol establishments (e.g., BevMo)
ISTR this was comparable in IL -- though it may be that a separate
(legal) entity holds the liquor license (e.g., often "drug stores"
and "grocery stores" operated under the same roof; the liquor
license may have been owned by the drug store?)
MA is too far back for me to remember. But, I *do* remember really
LARGE stores (Martinelli's?) devoted to liver disintegration (i.e., the
sorts of places where you use a shopping cart to make your purchases).
Alaska was that way when we were there. It was funny because you could
go into a little general store sort of place and buy food, hardware
and a bottle but when you checked out. you had to walk around to the
other side of the counter to pay for the bottle. Same clerk and all,
just a different register. Then they put it all in the same bag and
sent you on your way.
I think one of the other western states was like that too (Idaho?
South Dakota?) Don't remember
In some cases that even dips down to the county level. Maryland was
that way when I was there. In Montgomery County you could get beer and
wine at the grocery store. Spirits were only at county stores. In
Prince Georges, just south of them, no beer at the grocery store but
they had private liquor stores. These places were closed on sunday.
The next county south (Charles) was open on sunday and you could get a
mixed drink at the drive through window. They gave you a mixer in a go
cup with ice and a miniature on the side. The guy usually would pour
it for you tho and throw away the bottle. I bet that has changed.
DUI really wasn't "that" illegal in those days. It certainly wasn't
the priority it has become. If you could sign the speeding ticket
without puking on the cop they told you to be careful and drove away.
Sometimes they just drove away.
Nothing ....if they really wanted to curb drinking. But, they don't.
They jes want yer $$$$!
Notice how alcohol laws have been relaxed. Are the powers-that-be
doing anything to curb drinking. NO! In fact, they will do anything
it takes --including making the acquisition of booze easier-- to get
more of yer $$$$ on a DUI. They could give a rat's ass if you die or
kill someone else. Now, it's nothing but a revenue source for 'em.
Yer right, I'm wrong.
I shoulda sed, "alcohol availability laws". Here in CO, they allowed
sale of alcohol on Sundays. When I got here, in 2007, Sunday was
blue. I jes saw an ad fer some kinda fruit juicy bourbon (jim bum?).
The fact that a national std was set only means the hooch
dealers/makers woulda rioted if any state went lower.
Yeah, we still got some weird ones. We can only buy 3.2 beer in
It's been 50 years since I went to grad school in Cleveland. I had
chaperoned a couple of fraternity parties where they had kegs of 3.2
beer which students under 21 were allowed to drink. Can't recall much
about it but beer most folks drink today is probably not much stronger.
| Has anybody taken the time to compare beer prices between their local
| beer distributor and various other retail outlets?
For what it's worth.... I used to brew my own
beer and now I'm very picky about what I buy,
so I'm not sure my info will be useful to people
who might be buying cases of Bud Light and want
to compare the local package store with Costco,
or some such. I also live in MA, where beer and
other alcoholic drinks can only be sold at licensed
I've been buying only Peak Organic Amber and
Fresh Cut for a long time now. I haven't bought
watered down beer since high school. (Back
when Michelob was the new, "fancy" beer. :)
Most popular beer is watered down. Even the
popular beers that may be all malt in some cases,
like Sam Adams or Harpoon, have been weakened
to appeal to mass market. There are lots of beers
in New England like that: Mild beer with outdoorsy
mountain themes, for people who like to appreciate
quality but who don't really like beer.
Given all that, I'd distinguish 3 categories:
1) The mass market products like Bud/Miller/Coors.
Miller doesn't even use hops. They long ago
extracted a chemical from hops to use in place
of the real thing, because real beer skunks in
clear bottles. Bud adds rice. They all reduce malt
content to save money and make the beer less
"beery" tasting. What they all have in common
is a target market that cares mainly about brand
image and cheap price. Their customers want
weak beer, with little flavor, to drink in volume.
2) The mass market "quality" beers (like Blue Moon,
made by Coors) and the down-market "quality"
beers like Sam Adams, Harpoon, Long Trail, etc.
[The mass market pseudo-microbrews are recognizable
because they're available everywhere. Blue Moon
signs in bars are now nearly as ubiquitous as
Bud signs.] Their target market is willing to pay a
bit more for a beer they believe is specially made
in some way.
3) High quality, all-malt beer, which by necessity
has a limited market reach.
Category 1 is available anywhere, like Coke and
Pepsi. Category 2 is available in some stores,
especially in urban areas. Category 3 is available
only in a limited way. Since I drink a category 3 beer
I'm lucky to find it and can't do much research on
cost. Nevertheless, I still find surprising differences:
My local store sells it for $10/six-pack. Another
store in town sells it for $11. I've seen it higher.
The closest store used to sell it for something like
$11.50, but now they don't carry it. I can get it
cheaper in cases, but the cheap store won't stock
cases, and the second cheapest store doesn't offer
any bargain. The biggest stores in my area often
don't stock the beers I like at all.
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