On the People's Court, woman turning left, many hits her from behind
when she stops because of cross traffic.
Man drivign SUV says roughly that "on the newer cars, anti-lock
braking prevents the wheels from locking up so one stops slowly."
I thought on dry, non-gravel-covered roads, anti-lock braking had no
Even after he lost, he thought it was the fault of the driver in
I saw that too. Going as slow as both litigants stated and agreed to
(about 5 mph), ABS had no part in the cause of the accident. He wasn't
paying attention, plain and simple. Even if ABS takes a millisecond
longer to stop, he was following too close for the vehicle he was
driving, not paying attention, or bad brakes. None of the excuses hold
I am under the impression that ABS keeps the tires from sliding which
will in fact stop quicker in ALL circumstances by not letting the tire
lose traction and control. Once a tire locks up, there is no traction,
or at least very little.
If you ever get the chance, try driving on ice without ABS. You will
then see how good ABS is.
Eh, *good* ABS is good. *BAD* ABS, which I've experienced, can in
fact cause significantly increased braking distances in some
conditions compared to not having it at all. But good tires make even
more of a difference; and <5 MPH ABS is not a factor as often the
wheel speed sensors don't have the resolution to distinguish between
very slow wheel rotation and a stopped or locked wheel. So the ABS
shuts itself off at very low speeds in most (all?) cases.
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 05:32:31 -0700 (PDT), jamesgangnc
The VAST majority are variable reluctance - not Hall Effect - and are
basically AC generators - so YES, speed IS an issue. If they were Hall
Effect they would, generally, be 3 wire active devices - and all I've
seen and worked on are only 2 wire.
Also, check the manual re: how to check ABS sensors. AC voltmeter -
turn the wheel and note voltage. Compare wheel to wheel to determine
if one is weak. That means they are pulse generators, not
interupters. The faster they turn, the higher the amplitude of the
pulse (or highe voltage).
So the ABS shuts itself off at very low speeds in most (all?) cases.
That's my experience. I back out onto a steep alley. When there is
snow or ice I must go as slow as possible. The ABS will not work and
at times have slid the entire length.
My complaint, when going very slow my anti lock will come on, on bumpy
roads, and when you get wheel hop, and the anti lock feature is a
hazard in this case. Especially on one downhill slope onto an artery.
ABS just guarantees that you will hit what you hit SQUARE.
There are MANY situations where I can stop much quicker without ABS
than with - particularly in sloppy wet snow conditions. I have had the
brakes virtually "go away" under those conditions - while without ABS
you can slide the tires enough to let them "dig through" the slop -
giving you a fighting chance at getting stopped - sideways -
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:21:15 -0400, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
I don't have ABS, but I've had that feeling when I thought about it,
that it woudl do what you say.
I've actually driven very well on ice and snow, except that one time
there was no ice most places and black ice where the road bent to the
right and I slid to the outside lane and hit the car coming the other
way. Totalled his car, 3000 for mine, bumped my knee but no one hurt.
Happend at 6PM. The next day, when I tried to get out of bed, my leg
wouldn't work. I told it to straighten so I could stand on it and it
didnt' do anything. I had to use my hands to straighten it, to go to
the bathroom. Spent the day in bed. All day, leg didnt' work. Next
day, leg is fine. Works fine, jab it everywhere and nothing hurts at
all. My body was like the doctor saying, Give it a rest for a day.
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