OT a bit - Propane prices

IGot2P wrote in news:nL2dnQNTta0E65vQnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

In South central Iowa I contracted for $1.57, up 28¢ from last year. I've contracted for 20 years and have never been beaten by lower prices late in the season. YMMV.

Steve southiowa

Central Florida, about $3.30/gal. I changed from Amerigas a year (maybe two years?) ago because they were charging $5.00+. Can you say "gouge"?

Steve,

I am in Farmington, IA (20 miles from IL and 3 miles from MO), how far west of me are you?

Don

IGot2P wrote in news:WridnVNYot_WKJrQnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

Outside Osceola, Clarke County.

Steve

Okay, we used to always take the long way home from Des Moines and stop at the Casino back before they changed owners and name.

Don

I just got 350 gallons today from the local ag co-op. If I pay within

$2.19 here in the rural south of KC

IGot2P wrote

Many years ago I had a dorm neighbor at Central College who was from Farmington. Don't remember his name, but do where he was from!

Steve

Feasible yes. Practical? Probably not for many people. I live in a rural area. Some farmers I know did run their pickups on propane. They also use propane for grain drying and to run irrigation power units. A very few also had propane burning farm tractors years ago. That didn't catch on due in part to the inconvenience of propane compared to gasoline or diesel fuel.

Dean Hoffman wrote in news:ieag4n$4q2$ snipped-for-privacy@speranza.aioe.org:

how does an multi-port electronic fuel injected motor convert to propane? Do they have gaseous injectors that can be controlled by a reprogrammed ECU? so they retain the emissions control mandated in the US.

or does the conversion forgo all that electronics and go back to uncontrolled carburetion?

You must be mistaken, NO ONE from Farmington, except me, EVER went to college! :-)

Don

The engines I mentioned earlier were all carburetored. I haven't paid much attention lately to the propane fueled irrigation engines. They're still using carburetors, I think. I did find this though:

I was thinking about this recently and realized it's probably a lot hard to do coversions on modern vehicles than it used to be in the days of float carburators.

You used to be able to put a propane "collar" under the carb that would feed the vapor into the intake and all you needed to do was remove power to the fuel pump or close the fuel line.

On modern vehicles with computer controlled direct or throttle body injection, I would think it becomes a huge task to chage fuels.

Robert Neville wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

I believe most cars today use multi-port injection for better emissions control.

I checked what we are paying for propane for our fork lift trucks. It was

OK, do I have this correct? It costs me $80 to fill a 100# tank (80% full liquid). A 100# tank holds 23.6 WC (gallons water capacity) x 80% = 18.88 gallons. 18.88 gallons into $80.00 = $4.24 per gallon? I'm in east Tennessee.

A quick search gives 4.1lbs per gallon. Pretty close, I'd say. I don't feel so bad about $15 for a 20% BBQ tank anymore. ;-) They haven't filled my

Yep, you always take a beatin' when it's sold by the pound.