A lot has happened in the appliance industry during the last twenty
years. From Wikipedia's page on Maytag: "By 2005, Maytag's market share
had declined to all-time lows, sales were flat, and customer
satisfaction surveys ranked Maytag near the bottom of the appliance
field." Whirlpool acquired Maytag soon after, but has not restored the
brand's reputation to anything like what it was in the days of the
"Maytag repairman" ads.
Appliance have followed the same path as many consumer goods where they
are decontented to keep prices from going up. As well as closing U.S.
factories and unionized factories and moving to less costly locales for
Industrial and commercial equipment goes up in price but they maintain
the quality because businesses are more able to understand the value of
buying higher quality equipment than consumers. A laundromat owner with
a machine down for repairs has not only the cost of repairs but lost
sales. So he (or she) is willing to pay for very rugged machines that
are very easy to service. A laundromat owner needs to be able to do
their own repairs and have stock of any part that is a wear item (belts,
hoses, motors, valves, etc.
The first laundry machines I bought were a pair of used Speed Queen
commercial machines (22 years old) for $50 each. I had to do a few
repairs since the machines had been in commercial service during those
years. One motor pulley. One belt. One electric heater coil for the
dryer. I called Speed Queen to buy manuals and they said that they would
send them out with an invoice for me to pay when I got them--amazing.
I replaced them in around 2000 because the dryer drum wore out (the
steel actually wore out) and when I called Speed Queen to buy a new drum
they could not understand what I was saying when I read them the model
number and insisted that there must be more digits. When I told them
that the machine was built in 1963 they explained that while many of the
parts had not changed since then, the dryer drum had changed and the old
one was no longer available.
One of my relatives has a tri-plex with the same Speed Queen model and I
did have to service their washer once--the coin slide was not
automatically coming back out after being pushed in because the spring
had broken. A new spring fixed it. I was only there because they wanted
me to change the cost of a wash and a dry but I replaced the spring
since I was there.
Don't know if Canadian Maytag is made in the USA. Their crappy Duet
was not. Apparently the Maxima a nd Bravos lines are made in Findlay
Ohio - I don't remember seeing those names, but they may well be
availble now. The retailers I spoke with all said the Mexican Duet was
nothing but trouble at the time and gently steered me away from
Folks had the same set, similar age. The washer broke this year and they were
told they couldn't get the control board to repair. Setting aside why any
electronic board isn't designed not to fail these days, the fact that they had
to junk an expensive and not very old washer is really annoying.
Recently bought a new Maytag top loader. The control panel has more
lights than anything Boeing makes for the cockpit.
It does a good job of washing though so I'm satisfied with that portion.
I wast offered an additional five year warranty for $125. I've always
recommended passing on such deals as they are not wroth it. Changed my
mind. A typical service call today is $80 to $100.
I watched the ma chine (glass lid) go through a typical cycle. Valves
opening and closing as water can follow different path. Dispensers open
and water passes through to rinse them. The tub spins, stops, reverses.
Goes fast, goes slow, water sprays.
I just don't think this machine is going to run flawless for six years.
I'm thinking the service policy will pay for itself. First time I
ever bought one.
nestork posted for all of us...
And I know how to SNIP
So you are saying if you like your wife buy the residential version and if
you don't get the commercial version?
Do you have to install a change machine? You know the wife will just steal
the change of your pants along with a few bux for good measure...
On 6/10/2014 9:45 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
<snip> > Our city (So. Cal beach) runs incentive programs to partially subsidize conversion of lawns to xeriscapic uses.
We have those incentives, plus an incentive to divert washing machine
gray water to lawn irrigation since the amount of soap in washing
machine water is minimal. But I guess you can no longer use bleach.
We also collect water used to wash pots and pans and dump it on the lawn
but not many people will deal with this. Probably 10 gallons a day from
Dishwasher water really can't be diverted for lawn irrigation.
California really is not serious about water conservation because if
they were they'd be banning lawns and banning high water use crops like
rice. Shorter showers and full loads of laundry are nice, but the
reality is that irrigation is what needs to be curtailed.
On Thursday, June 12, 2014 2:53:50 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
Part of the reason for trying to limit waste water like toilets is that
it's a two part problem. It uses water and it creates waste water
that then in many cases has to be treated. That takes energy, chemicals,
$$$ treatment facilities, etc.
I'm still curious about your statement related to the load sensing
mechanism getting flaky over time. Do you have some statistics to back that
up? Your comment was the first time I have ever heard that and since I have
a machine that supposedly senses the size of the load, I'd like to hear
more on that issue.
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