Don't know if Canadian Maytag is made in the USA. Their crappy Duet was not. Apparently the Maxima a nd Bravos lines are made in Findlay Ohio - I don't remember seeing those names, but they may well be availble now. The retailers I spoke with all said the Mexican Duet was nothing but trouble at the time and gently steered me away from Maytag.
Folks had the same set, similar age. The washer broke this year and they were told they couldn't get the control board to repair. Setting aside why any electronic board isn't designed not to fail these days, the fact that they had to junk an expensive and not very old washer is really annoying.
Recently bought a new Maytag top loader. The control panel has more lights than anything Boeing makes for the cockpit.
It does a good job of washing though so I'm satisfied with that portion. I wast offered an additional five year warranty for $125. I've always recommended passing on such deals as they are not wroth it. Changed my mind. A typical service call today is $80 to $100.
I watched the ma chine (glass lid) go through a typical cycle. Valves opening and closing as water can follow different path. Dispensers open and water passes through to rinse them. The tub spins, stops, reverses. Goes fast, goes slow, water sprays.
I just don't think this machine is going to run flawless for six years. I'm thinking the service policy will pay for itself. First time I ever bought one.
In the past year, I've replaced two toilets with 1.6 models, replaced the old washing machine and dishwasher with more efficient models. Last water bill was about the same as previous.
One reason: gotta flush them damn water-saver toities 3 times to get the crap down, then you have turbo-flush spray all over the seat/floor. Screw that.
Appliance have followed the same path as many consumer goods where they are decontented to keep prices from going up. As well as closing U.S. factories and unionized factories and moving to less costly locales for production.
Industrial and commercial equipment goes up in price but they maintain the quality because businesses are more able to understand the value of buying higher quality equipment than consumers. A laundromat owner with a machine down for repairs has not only the cost of repairs but lost sales. So he (or she) is willing to pay for very rugged machines that are very easy to service. A laundromat owner needs to be able to do their own repairs and have stock of any part that is a wear item (belts, hoses, motors, valves, etc.
The first laundry machines I bought were a pair of used Speed Queen commercial machines (22 years old) for $50 each. I had to do a few repairs since the machines had been in commercial service during those years. One motor pulley. One belt. One electric heater coil for the dryer. I called Speed Queen to buy manuals and they said that they would send them out with an invoice for me to pay when I got them--amazing.
I replaced them in around 2000 because the dryer drum wore out (the steel actually wore out) and when I called Speed Queen to buy a new drum they could not understand what I was saying when I read them the model number and insisted that there must be more digits. When I told them that the machine was built in 1963 they explained that while many of the parts had not changed since then, the dryer drum had changed and the old one was no longer available.
One of my relatives has a tri-plex with the same Speed Queen model and I did have to service their washer once--the coin slide was not automatically coming back out after being pushed in because the spring had broken. A new spring fixed it. I was only there because they wanted me to change the cost of a wash and a dry but I replaced the spring since I was there.
The amount of water used by these devices is minimal when averaged over the number of times they are used so the difference between high and low efficiency is minimal. The biggest use of water is in irrigation.
Otherwise the water police would be sniffing around and replacing your meter. A car salesman once said to me "If you want economy you have to pay for it!"
We have those incentives, plus an incentive to divert washing machine gray water to lawn irrigation since the amount of soap in washing machine water is minimal. But I guess you can no longer use bleach.
We also collect water used to wash pots and pans and dump it on the lawn but not many people will deal with this. Probably 10 gallons a day from that.
Dishwasher water really can't be diverted for lawn irrigation.
California really is not serious about water conservation because if they were they'd be banning lawns and banning high water use crops like rice. Shorter showers and full loads of laundry are nice, but the reality is that irrigation is what needs to be curtailed.
I'm still curious about your statement related to the load sensing mechanism getting flaky over time. Do you have some statistics to back that up? Your comment was the first time I have ever heard that and since I have a machine that supposedly senses the size of the load, I'd like to hear more on that issue.
Well 100% of the people I know with a washer with that mechanism have had it fail. But that said, it's only one person. OTOH the repair person that came out to fix it told her that they fail consistently.
Usually it's just a matter of blowing through the hose to clear the blockage but a lot of sensors, timers, and controllers get replaced that are not really bad.
The other stupid thing on these machines is that when working properly, if you open the lid, say to throw in another item. the machine changes to maximum load size instead of keeping the smaller load size.
"These machines"? Which "these machines"? Are you claiming all HE washer exhibit the "refill to the max load size" issue?
Well, it can't be all machines, because my load sensing machine doesn't even have a lid. It's a front loader. I've opened the _door_ numerous, numerous times and I've never had an issue with the machine suddenly filling up with more water.
Based on the fact that your "100%" experience includes a single machine and the word of a single repair person, I will choose to doubt the original statement until some more substantive evidence is provided.
I am curious though, what "hose" are you referring to that needs to be blown out to resolve the issue. You know, just in case I ever experience the problem.
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