Now , about Linux Mint ...

I decided to try it out in one box that's kind of "extra" as a dual boot with WinXP Pro - on a separate hard drive of course . Ran into a formatting (?) problem early on in the install though , and decided to come back to it later . The times they are a changing . And that was fershure Dylan .

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Terry Coombs
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What file system were you using? OpenSuSE defaulted to btrfs and I had nothing but trouble trying to get it to boot. I went back to ext3. My former preference was reiserfs but i doubt Reiser is going to be doing much further development from Salinas Valley State Prison.

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rbowman

I misspoke , it was a partitioning issue . I've been looking at the instructions and it's not clear to me just what the problem is . I'll study it some more later , no great big hurry .

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Terry Coombs

If you have a separate hard drive, disconnect the XP drive and let desktop linux have its way with the installation. Every time I've tried to dual boot one drive, or two installed simultaneously, Grub Update borked my system eventually. Keep 'em separate and they'll both just keep working.

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mike

New disk, right? I've had trouble with disks that have been in use. Defrag, defrag, and defrag again to get all the crap stuffed into one area so you can create a partition.

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rbowman

These things always have Live CD's you can Fly before you Buy.

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T

defrag doesn't necessarily push all the stuff to one end. There are programs to do that so you can change partition sizes. Windows will let you shrink/expand a partition and takes care of all that. I think you can do the same thing with linux gparted. If not, surely there are programs that can.

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mike

Just so you know, I'm using Linux Mint 17.3. 18x series hasn't matured enough yet, imho. So, I'm waiting that one out. Your box specs are decent, so I'd go with the KDE version with codecs. 18x series doesn't include them. I *hope* they reconsider that in a later release. You can install them once it's up and running though, if you decide to roll with 18...

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Diesel

I considered that ... instead I think I'll do this with the comp that's currently hooked to the TV , it has only one drive and a pretty new XP install so I don't have a lot of stuff on it . This comp is an old HP and was a gift ("Just get it out of my attic.") and I really won't be upset if I bork it up .

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Terry Coombs

It was a short flight ... but it looks a lot like Ubuntu which I have played with before . I can tell a lot more by doing a full install , and I have a spare comp to play with . -- Snag

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Terry Coombs

Could you stop the ad?

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Tekkie?

The problem is that avg appends that at MY end when I receive the email/post , and what you're seeing is what someone that quoted me didn't snip . I'd love to turn it off , haven't figured out how yet ... it's not annoying enough to go back to (shudder) Avast . I'm not going to worry about it right now , this comp is due for a serious (for me) OS update to (probably) 7 Pro/64 bit as soon as my RAM arrives ...

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Terry Coombs

It's a fork (in laymens terms) of Ubuntu, so yes.. it has some visuals in common along with other things. [g]

-- I would like to apologize for not having offended you yet. Please be patient. I will get to you shortly.

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Diesel

To avoid the possibility of screwing up your Windows system, disconnect the hard drive completely and on a spare hard drive install Linux

Now you can experiment all you want...

I've been using Linux since the year 2000 and it's now my main OS

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philo

I like it quite a bit myself. Really like it. The desktop is so much different than the old shell accounts I've had since I was a young teenager. [g] I can take a more hands on approach now, instead of ssh/telnet sessions that just aren't the same. Speaking of 2000, I actually retired from Vx that year. It was time.

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Diesel

To resize partitions with Windows you need to be running a minimum of Win7, IIRC.. There ARE third party utilities that will do it on XP - like spinrite?

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clare

I had computer experience back in the old punch card days but by 1982 I got damn sick of computers and swore I'd never touch one again.

Other than using an old DOS inventory program at work, I pretty much had no contact until my (now) wife gave me her old P-1 in 1999.

It did not take me too long to get back into things and within six months was quite used to win9x...so I needed a bigger challenge.

Have to admit I was clueless regarding Linux at first. From the time I got my Red Hat 5.2 CD until the time I got it installed and everything properly configured...was about six months...but I learned a lot!

Now Linux is very easy to install and use but to a newbie there are still a few things that might be a little confusing...but for the most part there is nothing to it.

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philo

spinrite doesn't repartition anything. It's a low level drive testing/data recovery utility which is actually two seperate exe's in one. Instead of a DOS stub that tells you to run it in Windows, it's the actual program. It *requires* a DOS environment. When executed under Windows, you're greeted with options for creating media that'll reboot your machine into freedos and execute the actual program from there for you.

The single executable file is really two seperate executables in one. The MZ section is the actual program, which is ignored if run under Windows. Windows will run the PE code below it, instead. The PE code isn't the actual program, though. It's just a front end to let you create bootable media (using freedos) so you can reboot the machine into a supported environment and execute the MZ section of the executable that actually does the work.

Spinrite isn't freeware, but, it's reasonably priced.

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I've still got Spinrite 6 someplace around here. And it does work in many cases. Used to use it quite a bit at a shop I worked at.

You do NOT need to be running Windows 7 to resize partitions. Where do you even get that idea? Just how do you think we resized/split,merged, etc partitions prior to Windows 7?

formatting link

Works well, but, as always, backup your data before playing with such tools. Partition magic is another decent one I have experience with. Again though, you would want to backup your data before using these utilities, just to be on the safe side. As, things can go wrong. IE: power outage in the middle of the job, for example.

I'm saddened to see what passes for IT expertise these days. Really disappointing...

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Diesel

I was learning sco unix, I think it was via shell accounts prior to my first experience with linux in the mid to late 90s. Most of the mainframes I was gaining shall we say, unauthorized access to were using unix....What's a bored kid with a computer to do right? :)

I can't say as I found that series of machine a favorite. Very proprietary, totally turned me off of it.

SX or DX? When we ran boards, windows 95 wasn't so hot on those machines once you went multiline. OS/2 warp OTH, ran swell. Available applications were very limited, and that's IBMs fault. They didn't do anything as far as serious advertising goes. So, few developers took it seriously. If it had IBMs support behind it, it would have rocked the socks off anything MS was offering at the time. Especially when you consider MS was working jointly with them until they had a falling out. And thus was born MS own 'version' known as Windows NT.

And the rest as they say, is history...

I'm not familiar with ECS. :)

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Diesel

That depends on what you were using it for. I was running a multiline BBS at the time, so for my needs, OS/2 Warp was kicking the dogshit out of Windows 95 as far as multitasking was concerned. It offered better memory management and more efficient time slicing. Which, is what you needed when you ran a DOS based bulletin board system with multiple lines.

Entirely IBMS fault, too. They did a great job writing an OS, and an absolutely terrible job advertising it to recruit users and developers. Windows NT was born from the fallout.

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Diesel

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