I was just reading some of the older messages regarding having more
than one circuit splice in a single junction box.
There is obviously the potential for someone to be injured if they
believe only one circuit is involved.
I have a couple of junction boxes where I've got more than a single
I've solved the problem for myself (Poor memory after a few years) by
using a self adhesive plastic label holder. The kind found in office
supply stores for use on binders.
They're 1" by 3 1/2" and I just list the 2 circuit breakers involved
and stick it on the junction box.
These will remain in place forever and a day and I'm not concerned
about the next guy to work on that box. Including myself when I've
forgotten why I installed the box to begin with. :)
2 circuits in box
Breaker #'s 4 & 5 (Tie barred) and # 26
Some people label their breaker box so they know what they are. If you have
two circuits for your kitchen, you shut them off when working in the
kitchen. No real need to run back and forth, though you can if you need the
I bought the house 3 years ago. None of my handy work has required any
electrical changes/upgrades. Now I've re-done 2 circuits I've
I mean, there were 2 wall outlets on the same circuit right next to
each other. Hidden under the stairwell. What the hell is that all
I'm trying to re-label the breaker box. I've discovered that a fair
number of breakers are mislabeled. I have 4 (yes 4!) breakers for the
kitchen. There are 4 light fixtures and 6 wall sockets.Thay also
happen to control a light fixture in a hallway. I think whoever did the
original wiring was a real yahoo. Or some wierd changes were made
afterwards. The house is only 18 years old so at least I know I'm
dealing with new wire and all copper.
The list stuck to the box was done in a half-assed way to begin with.
Few labels seem to match the actual circuits. Maybe they did at one
time but not now.
I just felt a new J-box would cause less confusion if labeled for the
new circuits. So I'm going to label any I add or change along with new
labels on the breaker box.
Having a larger number of breakers for the kitchen is a good thing.
Modern appliances have a heavier draw , so it wouldn't be unusual.
For instance ; 1 dual breaker for the 220 electric stove
1 breaker for the GFI wall outlets and refrig
which includes garbage disp and
1 breaker for overhead lights
1 20A breaker dedicated to the microwave
If the electrician also ran an additional low amperage light
in the hallway fromthe kitchen lights, , it doesn't mean a thing except
that he knew the wiring
and breaker had the capacity and decided to use it.
However, electricians are notoriously poor record keepers as far
labelling the breakers. By the time they get around to that,
has been done and tested and they want to go have a beer. If you take
the time to do the job yourself, you will never regret it.. A
a nite lite and a walkytalky are very handy. Othewise, use a radio
WAY up..... It takes an hour or so, but worth the trouble. Use labels
you can understand, and DON'T use abbreviations if you can help it.
I'm still trying to find what is controlled by one of my breakers
"WPO" by the electrician. Not a big thing, but tugs at my mind....
Andy in Eureka, Texas
I rewired the end of our house and I ended up with a couple big 5"
square J boves. I labelled the cover, identifying where each cable
entry went and what breaker they were on. Just be sure you "key" the
Use a sharpie pen and then shoot the cover with clear lacquer to
preserve the writing.
kitchens should have at least 2 seperate 20 amp GFCI receptable
circuits, and the fridge should be on its own breaker NO GFCI fridge!
plus seperate 220 for electric stove and overhead lights can share with
other light circuits in home, Seperate non GFCI for dishwasher too
With kitchens trhe more circuits the better!
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