More leakers.

When storeing them in the fridge...store them in vacuum bags and suck the air out well before closing off the bags.

"The socialist movement takes great pains to circulate frequently new labels for its ideally constructed state. Each worn-out label is replaced by another which raises hopes of an ultimate solution of the insoluble basic problem of Socialism, until it becomes obvious that nothing has been changed but the name. The most recent slogan is "State Capitalism."[Fascism] It is not commonly realized that this covers nothing more than what used to be called Planned Economy and State Socialism, and that State Capitalism, Planned Economy, and State Socialism diverge only in non-essentials from the "classic" ideal of egalitarian Socialism. - Ludwig von Mises (1922)

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Gunner Asch
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Well, guess I failed this test. I'll get some ziploc bags one day soon.

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Stormin Mormon

Can order them on Amazon, like you can get any other thing. Sigh.

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Stormin Mormon

OK, now go to your twelve step program. Nuts Anonymous.

. Christ> >> Either great minds think alike, or we're both nuts - I just posted

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Stormin Mormon

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Stormin Mormon

I notice both wordings are 'extreme' temperature *and* moisture damage.

Sounds like mfg'rs know people are likely to lose from moisture damage than gain from cold storage.

Or, they both want to sell batteries. Remember THEY'RE the ones who put that little self check on the package without telling you the long term effects of actually using that widget.

No, to me, in this case chemical process is chemical process and colder is slower, well except for bread going stale. maybe there's a range?

Uh, is there a snopes on snopes?

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RobertMacy

Wondering if you are buying the cheapest batteries you can find that are those ones that have had a long shelf life in the stores or warehouses.

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Frank

You have posted your view that a melt down is immanent three or four times over the last ten years. So far .... Yeah, complete social/economic collapse and a return to the dark ages is a possibility. A more immediate possibility is economic collapse. There will be batteries at the stores, you just won't have the money to buy them.

Rather than store tons of batteries, one shot ones at that, you would be far better off with a few high quality rechargeable ones and one or more ways to charge them without commercial power.

If it's a minor bump, say a hurricane** a modest supply should do if you have picked your equipment wisely and give some care to conserving your usage.

If it's TEOTWAWKI, even a big stash of one-shots only buys you say a month or so before you have to face the music. Even a stash of rechargeable only buys you perhaps a year or two.

For the end of the world - things like candles are a much better reserve item. In point of fact, your only practical choice will be to live your (new) life in sync with when the sun is up. For that situation, you should be thinking renewable resources, not a stash of high tech production items, with just in time delivery, from places far away, requiring non-existent fuels for transportation.

Short power outage or end of the world Martian invasion, I have a hard time seeing a stash of one-shot batteries - with a shelf life - and a proven bad history - as a wise precaution.

** Isn't it about time for your annual thread about how can WE prepare for the upcoming hurricane season. It's a staple, right up there with Sandy Claws coming to town.
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Winston_Smith

How many flashlights might you use at the same time? That pretty much sets the number of batteries to have on hand.

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Winston_Smith

Alkalines have a shelf life of around two years. I buy them by the hundred ($.20 each). Other than heat, the biggest killer of alkalines is leaving them in the appliance discharged.

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krw

So, what do you do with hundreds of AA cells?

I invested in some NiMH which I use for mini mag light, and digital camera.

Does your device refuse the lower voltages?

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Stormin Mormon

I bought some Duracell Coppertops about three months ago.

The 9V package says guaranteed 5 years and the battery itself says

2017 on it.

The AA package says guaranteed 10 years and the battery itself says

2022 on it.
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Winston_Smith

Flashlights, battery backup for clock radios. Almost everything seems to use AAs. Some of my flashlights are AAA (remote controls use a lot of these). A 100 pack lasts us about a year.

They're always dead when I need them. Alkalines are cheap enough that I don't bother, much, with rechargables. The rechargeables I use are almost all LiIon. I do have AA NiCds in a couple of computer mice. They get charged constantly (recharge cradle) which isn't really good for NiCds but I've had them for almost 10 years and have had to replace the AA NiCds once (one each mouse).

Can't be bothered. I find that primary batteries are better in flashlights and such.

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krw

Yeah, that's what they say. I may believe it with the premium quality batteries but not with the cheap Chinese stuff. They're cheap enough to toss. Leaks aren't worth risking.

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krw

CY: I go through a lot of AA cells. Some Rayovac "stay charged" do OK in my flashlight and digi cam. I use a few AAA cells in flashlights.

CY: I did that for a long time. Bought some newer Rayovac, and they seem OK, and the stay charge ones are also good. For the money, not worth the bother for you, I see. I can understand that.

The rechargeables I use are

CY: That's good results.

CY: Glad that works for you.

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Stormin Mormon

The Rayovac D cells that leaked, were all within date. I've got some Infinity Beyond from Ebay, the AAA nearly all leaked. The AA are dated to 2006, and still going strong.

I do like to keep batteries in a couple things, flashlights and fluorescent closet light. Never sure which will last, leak, etc.

ROV wrote back, they are sending coupons to help replace the leakers. They sent some coupons to help with the C cells that leaked (but were out of date).

. Christ>> I bought some Duracell Coppertops about three months ago.

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Stormin Mormon

Did they leak before they were used? I've found that alkalines never leak until they're used and then go downhill fast. They may have a long "shelf life" but once used they don't last long (maybe a year) before leaking.

Yeah, I just buy the cheapest flashlights I can find. If the batteries leak, so be it. I try to change the batteries frequently but if I forget, I haven't lost much. Clocks are another thing. :-(

The premium battery companies say they'll replace the appliance if their products leak. From all reports I've heard, they do a decent job but they still leak. It's easier to buy cheap and replace often.

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krw

i just had two more leakers today... 2x Duracell C cells in a flashlight, dated 2022... well it's 2013 and I'm sick of having to clean this white po wder BS out of my devices! and the cells were still strong too, light was super bright. I f**king hate alkalines and can't wait until I get rid of t hem all! I would have never noticed were I not deliberately checking for l eakage... (This isn't a light I use often, it sits in nightstand drawer in case power goes out while I'm asleep) got worried when I had to use a piec e of shelf liner to get enough grip on the tailcap to unscrew it... *&^%$^ &*)*!!!!

Worst part is, I am pretty sure that those cells are the ones that came inc luded with the flashlight when bought it! And now won't trust it as it's b een compromised...

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N8N

Heck, buy your new batteries and flashlights that have batteries included in winter. They're less likely to have been sitting in a hot trailer during transportation. I've had rechargeables leak, even the hardwired cells. ^_^

TDD

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The Daring Dufas

CY: Yes, new, sealed in the packages.

I've found that alkalines never

CY: I didn't know that. Thank you.

CY: I've got a couple LED mag lights, would be nasty to lose those to leakers. If I had a bunch around the house, I'd probably use Dollar Tree

2D, and like you say, not a big loss. Clocks, yes, eight or so bucks each. I change clock batteries here and church, with the time change in spring and fall. Need 26 batteries for all the clocks at church. Home, clocks and also two for the thermostat.

CY: I've done that once, when Duracells leaked in a friend's mag light. I mailed it back to Duracell for him, and they sent a prepaid debit card, which could be used for flashlight, or any other thing.

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Stormin Mormon

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