My 12V Dewalt drill is no longer functioning due to the the two Nicad
batteries no longer lasting more than 2 minutes after fully charged. I
bought some instructions off Ebay on some magical RVD process that would
revive the batteries, tried them and did not make a difference. So now my
options are to get two new batteries - which of course are very expensive
and I suspect one year from now I would be in the same situation.
I read about Lithium Ion batteries lasting longer and does not have this
memory effect. So now I am considering just getting a brand new lithium ion
I do have a Makita corded hammer drill which I use, but when I am up in the
attic doing framing repair, or cutting holes in the top plate to drop wiring
down, or out in the yard repairing wood fences or on a ladder repairing
soffit etc...there is nothing better than a cordless.
Would appreciate if someone can share their cordless drill experiene.
Is the decision to go with a lithium ion drill instead of getting two new
batteries a correct one?
If getting a lithium ion drill what is a good one to get? I am thinking
Milaukee because I like the sawzall I got from them.
What kind of torgue do I get from a 18v lithium ion drill? The old Dewalt
12V I remember having problems driving 3" wood screws into 2x4s.
Thanks in advance,
I've bought a Bosch 38636-01 36 Volt a year ago and I love it. It is
no heavier than their 18 Volt 37618-01. Mine has only slightly less
torque than the 18 Volt and only a few less RPM but mine has a longer
I'm thinking of buying a second one to keep the first one company.
Is it good if a vacuum really sucks?
You can get the batteries rebuilt, but it may not be worth the effort.
I went with the Ridgid 18v Li (at Home Depot). It comes with a lifetime
service agreement, which covers the drill, batteries and charger.
I've had it for about a year now and am happy with it.
That 18 volt drill is more expensive, far less powerful and doesn't
have nearly the speed as the Bosch 36 volt drill. I hope you get your
money's worth in free batteries.
Is it good if a vacuum really sucks?
Plenty for what I use it for. There have been a few times I've had to
pull out the big drill (old D-handled Makita), but in those instances my
corded 1/2" Bosch didn't do any better than the Ridgid. (Certain LVL
beam screws, for example)
RPM has never been an issue for me - even with my older DeWalt 12v and 18v.
Thanks. It'll only take one. (And you may have missed the part about the
lifetime coverage for the drill and charger as well.) Have you priced
out the replacement batteries for the Bosch?
If you're trying to argue that yeah, the lifetime service agreement is
nice but the drill sucks, then I think you're off base. This is actually
a very nice drill, not some piece of HF crap you couldn't pay me to use.
(I briefly had a HF hammer drill, and I swear to god I'd rather use a
bit and brace than that piece of crap.)
I looked at quite a few drivers before I decided on the Ridgid. I really
liked the advantages of the Li-on batteries, but the consensus was that
they had a 2 to 3 year lifetime. And that's maximum shelf life too, not
just their expected lifetime under normal operating conditions.
I was impressed with the Bosch, but they were about the same price as
the Ridgid, and I had to plan on replacing the batteries (at $75 each)
within three years. I believe Bosch was sensitive to the battery issue
as they had an offer for a free third battery (via mail-in coupon), but
it expired after 12 months. Given the shelf life issue I mentioned
earlier, that wasn't enough to get me to bite.
I also considered the option of getting the Bosch and having the
batteries rebuilt when the time came, but I didn't find anyone who could
rebuild them. The oft mentioned primecell.com, for example, can't do it.
When the Ridgid batteries (or the drill or charger) go belly up, I'll
take it to one of the 9 Ridgid service centers within 40 miles of my
house. No shipping charges, no parts charges, and no labor charges. For
life. I'm not seeing any downside to the purchase yet.
The latest crop of Dewalt batteries I got, have crapped out in record time,
so I plan to switch to Makita lithium when the tools wear out. I usually get
about two years out of the tools, but this crop of batteries have only
lasted about six months. I refuse to buy more Dewalt batteries, so I got
some cheap Chinese spin-offs, which I swear are identical and half the
Right. A drill WITH battery is like $20.
I bought two of their 19volt models when my fourth Makita battery pooped
out. (One for the house, one for the workshop. I may get one for the car and
one for the bedroom at that price.)
I recently had 5 worn out batteries repaired by these
They all work like new and I am a happy guy!
I\'m still waiting for another sublime, transcendent flash of adequacy.
Since I asked here about a new driver for deck screws a few months
ago, I'll 'pass it on'. For deck screws everyone said an impact
driver was what I wanted.
I looked at the Bosch PS40s and thought they must be mistaken- that
little thing doesn't look like a match for deck screws. So I shopped
some more- and *by mistake* ordered a Milwaukee 2401-22.
(Amazon.com product link shortened)
[note that there is no chuck on that drill-- if you do a lot of
drilling, vs. driving, you might want the accessory chuck]
I almost returned it-- then decided to keep it. Glad I did. It has
more driving power than my old 3/8 corded drill-- with half the weight
I ended up getting a reconditioned Bosch impact driver from
Both are great little tools. Li-ion is so cool. 20 minutes to a
full charge. I can't draw down a battery in less than a few hours-
so there is always a fresh battery ready. Power-wise, these are both
about 12v tools, yet they have the power of corded tools.
The impact driver has been used for dismantling a 20 yr old deck &
building the frame of a new one. I thank all the folks who pointed
me in that direction. It is a bit slower than the 1/2 corded drill
I was using before-- but it is oh-so-much-easier, lighter, and gets
into the corners with ease.
Unbelievable. The tiny little things look like toys--- but drive
like monsters. I *can* drive deck screws with my 12v drill- but I
like it more for the smaller ones, and I get the impact driver out for
the big stuff.
The amazing part of the impact driver is that I have yet to snap a
screw off, and have only slipped out of one or two of the phillips
heads. [never made the switch to square] Even the old screws in
the deck I'm taking apart- they sit for a minute while the driver
pounds at them-- then back out like they were just driven yesterday. I
was breaking 1 in 4-5, and stripping the heads on 1 in 3 with my 1/2
drill. I am able to get 99/100 with the impact driver.
I lied- 15minutes to 85%- 30 minutes to full on the Bosch. Can't find
a time offhand on the Milwaukee- but I've never drained a battery
before the next one was ready.
Never felt a hot battery, but I pay little attention to them until I'm
ready to use them.
I doubt slower charging would make the batteries last longer or
manufacturers would sell a slow charge charger & tout its benefits.
And I probably wouldn't buy one. It is a tool- not a collectible that
I want to hang on to forever. If I get 2 yrs [the warranty period]
out of the tool I'm happy, it has made my life $100 easier-- and there
will be a new & better technology out there.
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