During the "Big Dig" project in Boston, Massachucetts, USA, they uncovered many
pieces of old city water pipes that were made from hollow tree trunks. These
were still in use, and maybe over 200 years old.
My house was built in 1952. Some of the pipes I've replaced were either lead
or galvanized steel. All of the cast iron drain pipes have lead pounded into
the joints. It must be how they used to do stuff.
it gets worse, much of the solder used to join copper pipe in plumbing had
lead in it until it was banned in the 1980s
many humans should be more concerned about dieing from stuff in their homes
than dieing from terrorism,,,lead poisoning,,,copper poisoning,,,cadmium
poisoning from galvanized pipe,,,,carcinogenic fiberglass dust,,,etc. etc.
consider having your drinking water tested by a lab...
While possible, most of those sources are strongly overrated as to their
effectiveness as exposure mechanims. Solder is in the joint and on the
outside of the pipe, for example, not in the flow stream except in quite
small quantities that flow during the soldering. Etc, etc., ...
Don't get me wrong, I'm not say to go out there and see how much melted
lead vapor you can manage to inhale, but come on now...
And, I am aware that pure lead as the Romans used for potable water
ain't a good idea, but I'm still doubtful that that is what was used for
the lateral spoken of in this thread...I suspect a lead alloy which
probably has much less of a leaching problem than pure lead.
you excluded from your quote of my text the most important line i wrote
it reads "consider having your drinking water tested by a lab..."
as to solder effecting drinking water, see:
which also says "The only way to know for sure if your water contains lead
is to have it tested."
this is splitting hairs, but a person's or family's health (especially young
children) is well worth splitting hairs for
I have seen no evidence to suggest that there are people dropping dead
in the street from the causes you mention.
Everytning is deadly if you take enough of it . None of us get out of
this life alive.
Get over it!
Lead pipes from the utility to the house bring potable water into most
of the houses in my neighborhood -- including my 1921 house. It's the
original pipe. We're located in an urban suburb near New York City, so
we're certainly not in the boonies. Of course, the building code
wouldn't allow such a pipe today.
As noted in another response, I never lived in an urban area until much
later so that was a new one for me...learned something I didn't know
which was the point of asking...I'm going to ask the City Engineer here
if it was commonly used here...so far, everything I've seen in town has
used black or galvanized. Of course, there's very little in town here
that predates 1900 as the original townsite wasn't founded until about
1888 when this became the railroad terminus prior to opening the OK
Then this town is actually younger than yours, founded in 1895,
population 811. However, the first European-style dwelling in what
became the town boundaries was built in 1704. Prior to that, there was
a large Lenape Indian settlement here.
The big development era was from 1920 to 1930 when the population
increased by 300%. That was when most of the houses were built and I
would guess that all of them originally had lead intake pipes like
mine. The water company puts chemicals in the system to help keep lead
from leaching. And judging from the relatively low water pressure I've
lived with for 23 years, the inside of the pipe must be pretty well
coated. Two toilet flushes in the morning clear the pipes of the water
that has stood in the lead pipe overnight.
Only two adults live here and we drink bottled water almost
exclusively (by preference, not fear of lead poisoning). We have no
children. We use filtered water for coffee, again out of preference.
We tested for lead years ago and have discussed the issue with the
water company. The water company regularly sends information,
including the results of testing, to homeowners on this and other
purity issues. I've read a number of articles and research documents.
Frankly, I'm convinced that my brain is safe from lead poisoning. On
the other hand, it does not seem to be safe from being 63 years old.
I think if I had little kids (shudder) I might replace the pipe just
to be double sure.
I actually have the lead intake pipe "insured" with a replacement
program provided by the water company and keep hoping it will someday
break and need their "free" replacement. No sign of anything yet,
That would be a slightly different fashion of "founded", though I
think...there were settlers around for quite some time, they just got
around to actually organizing the town later would be the way that
In our case, there weren't any dwellings in the area about a 30 mile
radius) other than a few dugouts much before the railroad chose the
particular route (bypassing several other either existing or
speculator-platted townsites) which ended up here. Then, essentially
overnight, all of the former county seat moved to the new terminus and a
town of about 3000 came into being in about six months. Little rough
'round the edges for a while, but that's yeat another story... :)
The Cimarron cut-off of the Sante Fe Trail did pass about 20 miles
northwest of town but that was about the only route of any real
organized travel in the area prior to the railroad laying tracks. Dodge
City and the other cattle terminal locations are still another 60 to 100
miles further east and north on the old Santa Fe lines...this was the
Rock Island. Will Rogers made his first cattle drive as a youngster
right after leaving home from a ranch down in the TX panhandle across
the OK panhandle to the new western lots.
I'll post one last note when I find out about lead laterals...
I lived in a small town in Pennsylvania in the early sixties. During
that time they repaved the street & redid the water & sewer mains. The
pipes from the water main to individual houses were lead pipe.
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