I'm in the very early stages of remodeling my kitchen. I'm looking for
a quality kitchen faucet with some pizzaz.
I believe Moen and Kohler are two good quality faucets but the offerings
listed on their web pages don't grab me.
What other brands are good quality? What brands should I steer clear
While I'm at it, any recommendations on sink brands? I have found a
Kohler that will do but it's not exactly 100% what I want.
Digital photography is still in diapers, as an art. Go see the faucets up
close, and include Price-Pfister (spelling?) in your search. I've had Moen
faucets for years. In the rare instances when I've needed assistance, the
company has gone WAY beyond the call of duty to make sure I was happy, even
when the problem wasn't their fault.
<< Go see the faucets up close, and include Price-Pfister >>
In several decades of home plumbing the only short-lived brand I've had to
replace was a Price Pfister. Delta's have been easily repairable when needed,
and Kohler best of the bunch. The Price Pfister was a single handle type that
probably had too many different alloys in the assembly and thus failed from
electrolytic corrosion in our midwest water supply. YMMV
Some of them are pretty, though. :-) Added note: He should avoid "EZ Flo"
like the plague. My landlord just installed one in my apartment. What an
unbelievable piece of crap! Fortunately, I'm buying another house, so I only
have to live with the thing for another few months.
I had a Price Pfister single handle and it lasted just a couple years. They were
helpful in alleviating the intial problem by having me disassemble it and remove
something but then it went south again a year or two later, leaking all over the
place and causing some serious damage. I put a Moen in its place and have had
nary a problem. I'll take reliable over pretty anytime. (The Moen I put in is
"pretty" but not as fancy as I want this time around.)
A friend has a Delta and I like it, but "easily repairable"? So was the Price
Pfister. But I don't want to have to repair it. I want it to be reliable.
These aren't $20 items. These guys are charging some dough for this stuff. It
ought to work 10 years or more if you ask me.
Moen faucets are the only logical choice. I've owned virtually every
brand over the years and since purchasing my last home (all Moen) 8
years ago I haven't spent a penny on repairs. I've replaced one
cartridge and one corroded trim piece, both free courtesy of Moen's
Beware that some faucets have *very* expensive replacement cartridges. Find
out how much the cartridge will cost to replace before purchasing.
When I recently asked about replacement cartridge cost for new faucets, the
salesperson did not look happy to say the least. I guess he saw years of
future expensive cartridge purchases going down the drain. I bought an
older style faucet with 10 cent old style replacement washers.
"Sixeye" wrote in message
I vote Moen over Delta. Whenever I go to fix a Delta I end up replacing it
with a Moen.
As far as sinks, Consumer Reports say stainless steel thickness is a
non-issue. Get one plenty deep. We bought a 8inch deep stainless steel
sink at Lowes for my parents and they love it. Not super thick but still
quiet because of a rubber pad at the bottom critical area to prevent noise.
What's the name of that stuff you can spray into cracks to stop cold air
from coming into the house? It expands. Anyway, a friend of mine sprayed
that all over the bottom of his cheapie stainless sink and spread it around
with a wooden paint mixing stick. Did a nice job of muffling noise. Looks
strange, but who cares?
You're talking about garbage disposal noise, right? So you're saying 20 gauge
is as good as 18 gauge? Actually, I'm probably going cast iron/white.
BTW, I don't believe anything I read in Consumer Reports. Anything they have
reviewed in my areas of expertise have been so far off base that it's been
laughable. In some ways, I'm inclined to buy exactly opposite of what they
Depth. 8 inches seems to be standard. And I think it's plenty for me. 10 and
12 seems to be excessive. Or am I missing something?
8 or 9 is fine. cast iron is so thick you will have no noise problem. CR
was right about thin stainless steel sinks being ok. I don't always agree
with them but don't always disagree either. Read then think.
Actually, a cheap sink can be pretty noisy when the water's hitting it.
That's the main reason a thicker one is better, especially if it's coated
with noise reducing stuff underneath. It'll also flex less when you're
moving the faucet head around. I don't know it that's important, but
something tells me it is. The sink in my apartment appears to be made of
foil. Faucets get stiff around the base as minerals build up at the O-rings,
so eventually, they all end up exerting some torque at their mounting
points. Based on observation, this seems to affect the seal underneath the
Anytime they review things which involve subjective opinions, they're wrong.
Stereo equipment comes to mind here. But, their automobile dependability
surveys are useful. Cars are religious items for many buyers, so people tend
to defend their buying decisions even if their cars are hideous. It was good
that CR finally confirmed how god awful domestic cars were back in the 1970s
I think you have a good point with respect to the thickness of the ss sink
at the faucet attachment. I own a porcelein sink and obviously the faucet
doesn't budge but there is some play on my parents ss sink and if it was
thinner I would think it would be worse. I have mineral issues on even my
rigid sink so I doubt that that is a significant factor with respect to
The mineral issue affects the internal parts of the faucet, like the O-rings
which seal the neck where it swivels. Where I live, a new faucet's only easy
to move for the first few months and it's downhill from there.
I had a bad experience with an Elger faucet (and an Elger toilet for
that matter). I currently have a Kholer that works and looks great.
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