You're full of shit clear to your ears...I guess you don't know many QUALITY
contractors..If you can't use 3/4 of a pail of mud (ONE bag) in one hour
(90) you're a slacker and wouldn't last ONE day working for me unless you're
a rookie...Besides they make 210 if it is a cut up job or staging work
...Need me to convert that to hours for you ??? Ok I will , it's 3
HOURS....Try your little fan trick up here when it's zero out and you're
using space heaters to heat a LARGE house or it's spring , summer or fall
and it's been foggy or raining for a week or longer or humid as
hell....Might work in Arizona but not here in coastal New England...Unless
it's a commercial job with long flat walls your banjos and boxes are pretty
much useless the way they build homes now with all the cathedrals , angles
and curves and COMPLETELY useless doing patch work in a renovation..The
square box type ranches up here are all modulars now...I can't remember the
last stick built ranch...LOL... .Besides the machines take atleast 2 or more
to operate them so the man hours are about equal or WORSE...Atleast compared
to a REAL taper..If they got the ENTIRE house done in 2 days I can imagine
what it looks like...I've seen HACKS like that too...Made alot of money
fixing their SHIT work....HTH...
Typical abuser, adding unusual and unnamed circumstances to the mix. You
have never used the machines, nor seen them in action. In a 5-7 man crew
ONE person mixes mud and the rest are using the machines to apply mud and
tape. The machines only need ONE operator, not 2. This is a 2,000 sf custom
built homes with cathedrals and boxed mud! You obviously never saw anyone
on stilts either! An entire room is taped in less than 1 hour. Some of
these guys are faster on stilts than you are on the ground!
You obviously never tried to clean setting type mud out of a machine. If
you don't get it cleaned up quick, you may have to throw out that $300
piece of equipment. Once set you have to scrape it out, ruining the tank.
Boxed mud cleans up easily, even after drying. The slightest amount of
leftover mud will totally ruin a finish.
I don't mean to jump into the flame war you guys have going but that simply
If you use warm water or over mix it you will not get the rated time so
maybe that is your experience. The more times it is applied and scraped off
the wall also affects the time.
Failure to clean the mixer, tools or pans can also cause an early set.
Personally, all those things considered, I never mix more than I can use in
half the rated time and I do all the mixing without using a power tool.
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I use the 90 minute mix with room temperature water and rarely get more
than about 20 minutes working time with it. I might get a half hour at the
most. The 45 minute stuff gives me about 15 minutes. I never really used a
stop watch to test this, but these estimates are based upon job start and
finish (cleanup time). It also depends on your definition of unworkable.
Mine is when I mix a thin slurry to do finish work and can't get a feather
edge anymore. I can still use it for another 10 minutes on fill, but not
last coat unless I don't mind a lot of sanding.
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