Independance Day

NO, those are the secondary set of number that the Obama Administration's Bureau of Labor Statistics puts out. Been put out in a similar manner for decades. It just that they were small enough to be a non-issue until the last few years.

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Kurt Ullman
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Ummmm

ass isn't spelled "ground"

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PV

Personally, I think the puppets are on the left. Folks on the left chant class envy, and Democrat slogans. Yes, we can! while the formerly great country is eroded and trashed.

But, that's part of the disinformer's gambit. Be quick to accuse others of what you are already doing.

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Stormin Mormon

One of the posts yesterday, I posted a dictionary definition of totalitarian. One of the readers accused me of being totaltarian, or rather that a privately funded Army would be T. One of the aspects of T. is that it rejects or attempts to supress opposition points of view. The slams on Faux news, well, that fits nicely into the T. definition. For those who have eyes to see.

As a real American man, this is one case where I'm so damn pleased to be low T.

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Stormin Mormon

I was trying to figure out how to work tant into the so far right he''s parallel to the ground scenario.

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clare

"None" wrote in message news:X5ydnWzKcbKjhirOnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.com... Profit motives will never, ever, provide veterans with health care, and for-profit armies are called totalitarianism.

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BurfordTJustice

Nobody said FAUX news was totalitarian. And I didn't say you would end up with totalitarian government. With no government you have ANARCHY which is a different situation. Under anarchy there is no security, no rights, no "rule of law". The drug cartels of south/central America are but one example - and "totalitarian" hardly fits.

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clare

On usenet, the dash, dash, space combination denotes "signature box to follow". On reply, some programs like this delete the signature box. So, BTJ typed text disappears.

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Stormin Mormon

Why not? That's exactly how most of the healthcare system, including the VA, works right now. Or do you think the doctors work for free and the drugs are developed by non-profits?

Better check that definition again. One has nothing to do with the other.

I guess you don't pay attention to the news, or you'd know that's obviously BS too. We haven't had anything like what's going on with illegals showing up here since Jimmy Carter and the Marial Boatlift. That's not all that Obama and Jimmy have in common either......

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trader_4

Bingo. For every 100 that piss and moan about Fox News, probably 5 actually watch it, even occasionally, and maybe 1 could cite something specific that they have an issue with in terms of how it was covered.

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trader_4

+1

I haven't seen evidence that the unemployment numbers are being deliberately manipulated by the Obama administration. AFAIK, they are still being counted the same way. It's just that for the first time in a very long time, a big component of the decrease in unemployment has been discouraged workers giving up looking for a job and leaving the labor force, as opposed to actually finding a job. That is reflected in the labor participation rate which is at a shocking 40 year low. People give up looking, leave the labor force, and the unemployment rate goes down.

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trader_4

Perhaps you can explain how "profit motive" correlates with "dictator". Exactly the opposite is true. Freedom and free, profit driven economies go hand in hand.

and the competition

You're right, I don't want to go wherever you are, because there must be something in the water you're drinking that's made you loony. Good grief.

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trader_4

But "free enterprise" cannot exist in a power vacuum - AKA Anarchist state

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clare

Hi Stormin,

Just out of curiosity, when the neighborhood dogs wonder by and decide you are part of their territory... oh never mind.

:-)

-T

Hi Clare,

I have been in the conservative movement all my life. Stormin is not all that right wing. You on the other hand, name call, which makes you the loser in a debate and a totalitarianism. Stormin and I are actually less right wing than our founders.

The following will really PISS YOU OFF:

Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil. We have it in our power to begin the world over again.

Some writers have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas they are not only different, but have different origins. Society is produced by our wants, and government by our wickedness; the former promotes our happiness POSITIVELY by uniting our affections, the latter NEGATIVELY by restraining our vices. The one encourages intercourse, the other creates distinctions. The first a patron, the last a punisher.

This is what you missed in Stormin's original post. I will repeat is for you "The first a patron, the last a punisher."

This one of our founding fathers and exactly what Stormin, Oren, and I believe. And what you exactly do not.

Oh yes, that would be Thomas Paine and Common Sense (1776). His writing is why a higher percentage of our population lost their lives fighting that war than any other war in our history.

All the blood that was shed so that you could trash why it was shed and you and other totalitarians liberals, also knows and socialists, have no sense of shame. By the way, what you guys believe is closer to the Nazi socialist monsters than the Soviet Socialist monster. Have you celebrated the senseless murder of any little babies lately?

-T

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Todd

Left wingers are frightened to death by the actual news. They are so spineless that they have to be told what to believe by others (propaganda).

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Todd

Hi Trader_4,

Where I live (Douglas County, Nevada), our county has lost over

20% of our employment (source was Manta). Some people have moved. Most have stayed. They actual rate of unemployment here is around 18%.

When I pass out card begging for work, I would say at least four out of five business building are empty. They rest are scared to death to spend any money. Every empty building is a family out of work, not to mention their employees.

I am sick death of those liar at the white house and worse with those in American Pravda who are suppose to protect us all against such liars in government.

-T

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Todd

Those two seem to work in combination. Failing economy, and propaganda.

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Stormin Mormon

Actually, totalitarian fits the situation in Mexico a lot more than anarchy. Mexico has a strong, corrupt govt that pretty much does as it pleases. And what pleases it is getting paid off and being in cahoots with the drug cartels. The govt is enforcing laws and controlling the country, it's just that it's exempting most of the drug cartels. If you rob a bank or beat up someone at a bar, you get arrested, prosecuted, so that kind of crime, which you would get away with if there was anarchy, is controlled. The drug cartels in turn are obviously a totaliarian organization, that brutally enforces their own set of rules and operating procedures.

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trader_4

I have always considered myself a small c conservative.. I have lived and worked in a country where the government was a lot more intrusive than any government the USA has ever had. "Single party democracy".

You have no idea what I believe - but like a typical American you see everything as black or white, left or right ...

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clare

I pretty much base my thoughts about you on what you say.

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Todd

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