The month of December we had a tremendous amount of rain over the
course of a few days. Due to this a leak in my ceiling was discovered
in which I got on my roof to realize it was related to the chimney.
Not wanting the ceiling to get worse I contacted John Green of JFGreen
Renovations (http://www.jfgreenrenovations.com /). I had never before
heard or dealt with this company. He told me he would give me an
estimate. He did come out to give me an estimate stating my entire
chimney needed to be rebuilt and he would do it for $2500. He then
said he would have someone come and tarp it off so as to not cause
more damage, he charged me $150 for this. The next morning they did
tarp it off. The problem here was that they COVERED THE WRONG FLUE.
This was discovered when a second individual came by a few hours later
to give me another quote. He noticed the condensation on the tarp was
heavy and when he cut it apart a huge amount of gas filled the air so
much that I could smell it heavily from the ground. We had noticed a
faint stench in the house that morning and all felt nauseous including
my 5 year old daughter and 5 year old nephew. I turned and contacted
John Green about this and he told me he would refund my money due to
this problem. I figured I would be nice and let it go and just take
the refund. I wound up missing two days of work because of this. I
then never heard from John Green. I repeatedly called him and sent him
emails. He continued to tell me he would pay me the money back using
all kinds of excuses. I did end up getting the job done for a meer
$500 which is 5 times less than what he wanted to do it for so I
believe this man is a scammer. I have called him many times over since
December and even sent him emails. I cannot believe that someone would
not stand behind their work. Now, my feeling here is a matter of
principle about this situation. I want to take action against him. Not
meerly for the money, lost wages and the fact that 2, 5 year olds were
sick due to this but for the sake of decency and doing business in a
proper way. My repeated attempts at meerly attempting to get my money
back when we could have all have died in this incident was in my
opinion very easy on him.
Rather than publishing such a diatribe to the whole
_planet_, why don't you take it up with your local BBB,
And, consider the fact that if someone went to put a
tarp over a chimney of mine that had any heating
appliance connected to it, it would not happen. Were
I to let it happen, I'd be an idiot. Take away what you
wish from that.
As to your question about publishing to the BBB I have
done that. This is just a way for me to further my way
of obtaining my rights as a consumer and to ensure this
doesn't happen to anyone else.
Your second point makes me say the following things
Say I am a computer expert (this is my trade). You
come to me with a problem. I look at your problem and
deduce that it is a defective RAM chip. So I go ahead
and replace that for you and it costs you X dollars.
Several hours later it turned out it was the cooling fan on
the processor and your computer is fried, you lost your entire
circuit board. Am I responsible for that RAM chip that I sold
you or are you? Business ethics would state that I am
responsible for at least refunding the monies to you with regard
to the work that was completed, albeit improperly. Surely
in my profession my duty was to provide compliance. I would
term ISO9000 in the auto world amongst the ISO world but
that is an example.
We all have our strengths and put our faith in good business
because we don't know everything. That is why we consult
external businesses to achieve these things. If I knew everything
about everything then .. I'd be god but I put my faith in the
My efforts here are simply stated that I do not want a
potentially dangerous situation for any family with regards
to this company.
On Feb 2, 11:59 am, email@example.com wrote:
Sorry for my rant on your nntp site, I realize I am making a point.
just wanted to get a word out is all about that company. I did it 20
ways as I felt it wasn't the way to do business. For me it makes it
googable or for any website search when I can. I didn't mean to
intrude on your newsgroup.
So you to all tell me how to flash my own chimney and I will listen.
On Feb 2, 7:05 pm, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
My only point is that I was dealt with un-ethically. I am a normal
consumer and just giving my points, that'sl all. I am a decent
ethical business owner. I didn't get the same respect. That was
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