I have an almost new Black & Decker corded drill. I love the drill
itself, but that keyless chuck has to go. I hate those frikkin
things. It seems like almost all drills got them these days, and
while they might be fine for the average guy that drills a few 1/8"
holes in a sheetrock wall for handing pictures, they do not hold a
1/4" bit to drill thru 1/4 steel, or a 3/4" wood bit. All those damn
things do is burn the skin off my hands. Give me a TOOL, not a TOY.
Real tools (drills), have KEYS for their chucks.
Now that I got that off my chest, I just bought a keyed check. The
only problem is that I cant figure out how to get that damn keyless
chuck off the drill. There's no screw inside like a keyed one.
Before I take this chuck to the bench grinder and grind the S.O.B. off
the drill, does anyone have any idea how to remove it?
Milwaukee, Albrecht, and Rohm will be interested in your theories
about keyless chucks.
To remove yours, you will need to remove the set screw in the
bottom of the chuck ( if it is a reversible drill, it will have
one). It is probably hex drive (Allen). Once it is removed, get
the largest Allen wrench you own, preferably 3/8" or larger.
Tighten the drill chuck on the short leg of the Allen wrench. Use
a block of 2x4 or a hammer to strike the end of the long leg of
the Allen wrench in a counterclockwise direction when looking at
the chuck end of the drill. It may take several sharp, hard blows
but will loosen the threads to allow you to spin the chuck off.
Keep the whole world singing. . . .
I concur of course. I just thought that you should have stressed that
point to the OP and advised him to look inside his drill's fully opened
And, most (maybe all) of those chuck screws I've encountered have left
hand threads, the OP might not think about it being left hand and bugger
up the screw trying to remove it "lefty loosey." (Now I've told him, if
he's reading this...)
Jeff Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
"If you can smile when things are going wrong, you've thought of someone
Yes, this is the OP. Thanks.....
The problem is that after getting a magnifying glass (my bad eyesite
still does not let me see which it is), it appears the screw is a hex
or torx. I dont have any torx that will fit in there, only tips for a
universal screwdriver. Hex wont fit unless they are metric. I guess
it's off to the ahrdware store today, and the drill goes along for the
trip. Why cant they just use normal screws? I hate torx anything,
and hex aint much better. I do know one thing, once that screw is
out, I'm replacing it with a standard screw (if I can buy a reversed
To give the devils their due, they probably use a hex(or maybe torx)
socket headed screw because that makes it easy for the installer to
stick it on the driver and get it started down inside the chuck without
it falling off the tool.
Same goes for loosening it without the driver slipping and buggering the
As Confucious reportedly said, "When rape is inevitable, lie back and
try and enjoy it." A few bucks spent on equipping yourself with metric
hand tools will be money well spent. Since most manufactured stuff we
buy nowadays isn't made in the USA, you just gotta go with the flow and
get the right tools.
I hate torx anything,
To each his own....
Jeff Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
"My luck is so bad that if I bought a cemetery, people would stop dying."
Right. Probabaly Makita with a different name plate. B&D found their
professional quality tools were not selling because they looked almost
like the cheap ones. So they colored them and used the name (DeWalt) of
the little company they had bought several years before. Only
connection I see is their "Serviced by Black and Decker" label.
Their B&D brand is probably made in China.
Yes, I own some DeWalt tools. If you look at the drills, the chuck is far
better than the B & D ones. Of course, the drill is $200 instead of $50 so
you should be getting much more.
The B & D stuff is now made for Joe or Mary Homeowner that uses the drill
maybe once a year. Many years ago it was the stuff professionals used
because of the high quality. That changed probably 15 years ago, maybe
I have a DeWalt cordless drill and its keyless chuck works very well
(ratchets tight without spinning the chuck). On the other I have used a
Sears drill that needs pair of Channel-Lok pliers to keep larger bits from
slipping in the keyless chuck.
It amuses me when people think that the lowest price is the best bargain,
when sometimes spending a little more will more than offset the cost in
durability and satisfaction (better function). I forget how much more my
DeWalt drill was than a B&D, but it came with 2 batteries, a case, 3 gear
speeds, variable speed reversing, multiple torqe settings for screws, and
brake (maybe why the keyless chuck works well one handed).
David Efflandt - All spam ignored http://www.de-srv.com /
The point is that DeWalt is a B&D product. It is what they used to call
their Professional line with black cases that looked almost like their
cheap ones. They were not selling well so they changed the color and
name and are doing quite well.
You really have to search the B&D site to find any reference of DeWalt.
There is a story that when B&D came out with the DeWalt line that the
President of B&D was standing by a DeWalt Display at a tool show in Las
Vegas. Someone who knew him came by, pointed at the display and said
words something like "These people are going to bury you". The
president only smiled.
You'd be amazed at how many folks think that DeWalt is a good tool
manufacturer. Try batteries made by Saft. Then you'll throw DeWalt
overboard. There's more to quality than price.
David Efflandt wrote:
I have no problem with the church. It's the &@$#%ing clutch. The clutch is
stuck in the lowest tourgue position and when I strike the hex key there is
no resistance to the impact. Because of that I can't remove the Chuck to g
et at the two screws holding the clutch on the drill, inorder to repair/rep
lace it. Can anyone help me with this or should I just "Chuck" the whole dr
ill and get a new one?
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 11:08:12 -0800 (PST), email@example.com
The word "church" is your answer....
Take your drill to church, and pray for it's healing.
God will heal it, if he's not busy with smaller things like hurricanes,
wars, floods, tornados, starvation, disease, and so on....
By the way, why did they name them "Chuck", not Tom, Mike, Bill, George,
Harold, Robert, Dick, Larry, or Jim?
Maybe you should just say "Fuck it" and CHUCK IT !!!! :)
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