Hot Tub - No water pressure...

[Zoner]

As for the filter thing, maybe I am wrong...

The last time this was running, the owner had a great big sand filter attached to it (the kind for big swimming pools). This was an ugly thing, so I ditched it, as it had some broken parts on it too. In its place I just temperarily put a PVC pipe.

On the corner of the tub, there is a full height 'tube' were the water goes down through the basket. I can get my hand in the inside water hole to pull the basket out, but was assuming this was its only purpose. Underneath the basket, is this were common filters are?

I was just guessing that I needed a pressure filter to replace the big sand one this guy used. Perhaps I just need to return the original filter system to normal.

[trader4]

"On the corner of the tub, there is a full height 'tube' were the water

goes down through the basket. I can get my hand in the inside water hole to pull the basket out, but was assuming this was its only purpose. Underneath the basket, is this were common filters are?

I was just guessing that I needed a pressure filter to replace the big sand one this guy used. Perhaps I just need to return the original filter system to normal. "

Sounds like somebody did a home mod on this spa.

On my spa, there is a compartment in one corner. It's basicly a deep well with a pipe connected to the pump suction coming straight up the middle for most of the height of the well Water enters the top of the filter well through a port on the side of the spa at the water surface, skimming it off. The filter slides on over the suction pipe and the pump then pulls water through it.

I would go to the manufacturer's website, if they are still in business, and see what info you can find. Also, the spa shops online may have info on the correct filter if you know the model you have. Failing that, taking some pics, measurements, and going to a spa shop may work.

[Red Cloud©]

Like I said, you seem to enjoy being Hyperbolic, shrill, and making mountains out of molehills. Go soak your head - you truly need it.

Meanwhile, if the original poster follows my advice, his problem will be easily solved. Now go back to sleep, chucklehead.

rusty redcloud

[Red Cloud©]

You're welcome. Another crisis AVERTED!!!

rusty redcloud

[Red Cloud©]

You lost your "case" when you woke up this morning. The original poster has now posted the results. He said that the problem was as I said, and loosening the unions was easy and effective. He further says that his neighbor has a hot tub manual for another tub that recommends bleeding by loosening the unions.

You were wrong on every count.

So, Stevie, GFY!

rusty redcloud

[Red Cloud©]

Since you are having such difficulty, and are unable to follow a conversation, I suggest that you look in the yellow pages for help. You need it.

Catalina Spa? Bwhahahahahaha! Who works on your Yugo for you? Bwhahahahahahahahahaha!

rusty redcloud

[Red Cloud©]

Precisely how many owners manuals have you actually read?

You seem to have a lot of trouble believing just about anything. Perhaps that is why you can't learn anything.

rusty redcloud

[Red Cloud©]

Well... The original poster has confirmed that I was exactly right about what the problem was and how to easily resolve it. Everything I told him was correct.

Fortunately, Zoner didn't follow your rocky road.

Once again, Steve the Peev uses hyperbole and exaggeration because that's all he has. Major components? Bwhahahahahaha!

rusty redcloud

[Red Cloud©]

Here ya go:

I'm sure that if you want to waste the time you can find many more saying the same thing.

rusty redcloud

[SteveB]

wrote

Whatever you say. I guess that hose at the lowest point that has the ninety valve on it is for filling the dog dish. Thanks for straightening me out.

Steve

[SteveB]

wrote

I was wrong, too, and am going to stop filling the dog's bowl from that line. ;-)

Steve

[gfretwell]

My spa was field assembled and there are no air traps in the suction side plumbing. We did that on purpose. You statement about the filter is pure bullshit. That is on the pressure side of the pump and has nothing to do with priming problems.

If you have bleed screws in a properly designed spa, that is for DRAINING the spa, not priming it.

[gfretwell]

OK I was wrong about the Catalina spa. You do need to bleed the air traps. The flaw is in putting air traps in there in the first place but if this the way they make skid pack spas that is what you have to do. The rule in proper pool/spa plumbing is the suction lines and pressure lines always slope in the same direction so they drain and fill without the need of bleeding.

[DJ]

Yep, and I suppose that bleed plug on top of my filter lid is so I can tip the tub over and drain it from there. I've been doing it all wrong all these years...

DJ

[DJ]

Hardly a "manual" in my world.

I mistakenly assumed the term "manual" meant an official owners manual, provided by the manufacturer of the spa, that details maintenance and care for a specific model.

Perhaps I should have something like, "show me where a MANUFACTURER recommends bleeding air through a union".

DJ

[gfretwell]

Did your pump ever fail to prime because you didn't vent the filter. If you did forget to bleed the air from that filter housing the air would all be gone in a minute or two anyway.

We were talking about the plumbing, not the filter anyway. A properly designed pool or spa will not trap air in the pipes. These skid pack spas do it because they have to jam all the plumbing under the housing. You are also wasting a lot of power moving water through all those elbows.

[SteveB]

I believe dustcloud is a lawyer, as he takes every word literally, and dwells on semantics rather than concepts.

And you must remember that dustcloud said that the "MANUAL" in question was his neighbor's, and probably not even for dustbag's spa. Hence, rustcloud's citing the URL does not indicate that the URL was for his spa, your spa, or my spa, but for some cyberspa.

Steve

[Red Cloud®]

That will have to be YOUR problem.

Loosening and tightening a union is not a big deal. It's very easy, and MANY manufacturers say that is the way to break an airlock condition. If you want to think it's major surgery, then be my guest.

rusty redcloud

[Red Cloud©]

My diagnosis and advice for the OP were spot on. Your's were not. Grow up and move on, dimwit.

rusty redcloud

[Rudy]

I'll agree with that. Our last tub, and a friends both required priming the impeller. There should be a large 2.5 - 3" round hard fitting on the flex PVC line to-from the pump impeller. The filling of the tub each time left an airlock just outside the impeller. I had to take a large Channel Lock and undo the fitting, let some water (maybe half a cup)/air gurgle out (Don't undo so far the "O" ring falls out) then tighten up and try a restart. Always worked for me.

If that doesn't work, I'd go with the spun impeller theory and shut off the gate valves and power and pull the motor/impeller housing and check it out

BTW: There was no "bleeder" on either of these two or on my older tub. This was the only way to do it.

R