re: No paperwork, no recycling headaches, no tax lawer consultations.
Until Fred goes to get some free computers and Bob goes to get some
free computers and Bob beats Fred over the head with a keyboard cuz
Bob doesn't like to share and Fred gets a lawyer and the lawyer sues
the hospital for creating the situation that prompted Bob to assault
They may not win, but you can bet your hard drive that there will be
paperwork and lawyers and no more computers at the curb.
Many stores do the same. I used to work at a nation-wide retail
store and we would cut unsold athletic shoes in half before throwing
them into the dumpster. It is an expense to the store to donate, plus
the person who picks up the goods may just sell the items at a much
lower cost. My father owned a bakery and nuns would come by at the
end of the day to pickup unsold goods for the convent. I doubt the
nuns were selling doughnuts on the side, but if they did it was for a
How is it only an expense when merchandise is donated and not an
expense to spend time cutting up merchandise, which involves
additional labor cost and then throwing it away?
And surely there are similar charities available everywhere which can
be vetted to ensure that they are legitimate and that the chance that
donated goods aren't being diverted for personal profit. It would
seem with all the homeless and needy a reasonable system could be
worked out, if anyone cared to do so.
One day I was looking for expensive 8ga 4 wire gen cable, i saw it at
HD on sale, next day I went back to buy it. HD said they put it in the
dumpster because it did not sell. They could have discounted it
greater, it would have sold.
Or returned to Home Depot for credit. Sears used to destroy stuff to
prevent that. People even would shop the garage sales to find old broken
Craftsman hand tools and then bring them into Sears for exchange. They
started keeping a record of names and would refuse to deal with a person who
obviously was doing that. Of course, they would just switch to another
And that would be a problem - how?
- Home Depot donates some Home Depot tool bags. Maybe they choose to
take a write-off or maybe they just choose to feel good about themselves.
- My youth organization holds an event or a competition, and we give the
bags to some teenagers. We feel good, the kids feel good.
- Some kid, either immediately or when (s)he's done with it, sells it on
eBay. The kid feels good, the new owner feels good, Home Depot still has
their name out there on the bag.
Who got hurt?
The other option is to throw the bags in the garbage so no one feels
good and the landfill gets fuller.
What am I missing?
Talk about waste...
Last week I visited a friend who has three or four acres of garden out
in the country. He grows most everything he needs foodwise and always
has a surplus to share. This year was an unusually good one for
potatoes and he wound up with about 2 tons of Kenebeck (sp.?) and
Yukon Gold spuds. He called every service agency in the Yellow pages
to see if their clients would want some of the bounty and was turned
down flatly, hearing over and over, 'We only want money or canned
goods.' The solution to the surplus could be to put the veggies in
big boxes by the side of the road with a large sign, "FREE!" and see
how many shiny SUV's stop to load up. Apparently the homeless and
underprivileged aren't suffering all that much.
re: The solution to the surplus could be to put the veggies in big
boxes by the side of the road with a large sign, "FREE!" and see how
many shiny SUV's stop to load up.
Pick a road in a poor neighborhood and you won't have to worry about
the "shiny SUV's". (There may be shiny SUV's in the poor
neighborhoods, but the drug dealers won't be stopping for free
re: Apparently the homeless and underprivileged aren't suffering all
Oh, they're still suffereing, you just need to get around the
roadblocks that the service agencies put up in order to see it.
Again, liability concerns. What's to say he innocently donates these
taters with every good intention and they turn out to be contaminated?
Now you've got a bunch of sick/dead homeless people and/or their
families, suing the service organization and your friend.
Canned goods have to go through FDA-approved processes to prevent
contamination, and money can be used to purchase canned goods.
He could have called here:
And those John Edwards wannabes whose pictures appear on every bus
wanting to help (themselves) are cut out of the loop when food donations
to a charity are concerned by the Bill Emerson Good Samaritan food
donation act (P.L. 104-210):
The Bill Emerson Good Samaritan Food Donation Act
On October 1, 1996, President Clinton signed the Bill Emerson Good
Samaritan Food Donation Act to encourage the donation of food and
grocery products to non-profit organizations for distribution to needy
individuals. This law makes it easier to donate. Here's how:
It protects donors from liability when donating to a non-profit
It protects donors from civil and criminal liability should the product
donated in good faith later cause harm to the needy recipient.
It standardizes donor liability exposure. Donors and their legal counsel
no longer have to investigate liability laws in 50 states.
It sets a liability floor of "gross negligence" or intentional
misconduct for persons who donate grocery products. (See Act text for
Congress recognized that the provision of food close to recommended date
of sale is, in and of itself, not grounds for finding gross negligence.
For example, cereal can be donated if it is marked close to code date
for retail sale.
The bill was named for Rep. Bill Emerson (R-Missouri) who fought for the
proposal but died of cancer before it was passed. The text of this Act
Two issues with donating:
1. It brings out the moochers and beggars. Every half-assed "charity"
organization will be beating down the doors of their local BOB store
for donations if word gets out. Really, it's a nightmare.
2. Liability. Some stupid kid gets a zipper cut from one of those bags
and mom sues BOB for a million dollars in medical bills and mental
anguish. Even if they win, it doesn't come without cost.
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